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#1 akiraspeedstar

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 11:00 AM

Its $10 more, holds 2 less BBs, and weighs noticably more than the GI magazine. Having 5+ on those pmags probably wont be nice at all.

The only pro I see of the Pmags is that they look really nice....dammit

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 12:03 PM

Where did you find the Pmag information? I don't think I will be buying any either, mainly because I already stocked up on normal mags.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:28 PM

Airsoft Outlet NW has them, I was close to buying them because it was in stock but after I felt the weight I changed my mind. Really sucks because I love the look of pmags but I gotta think about actual in game performance.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:29 PM

Interesting good thing I loaded up with G.I. Mags. In real steel P-mags are sometimes a pain to get out of pouches due to the ribs but maybe not KWA Airsoft P-mags.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:44 PM

Is the pmag shell plastic? Or is it metal like the g&p pmags? Has anyone actually weighed them to compare weight? Id love to see the weight difference...I might get one or two just cause

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 02:45 PM

Its made what Id assume is Polymer, does seem like it'd take a drop better than the gi.

Edited by akiraspeedstar, 28 June 2012 - 02:47 PM.


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Posted 28 June 2012 - 03:41 PM

View Postakiraspeedstar, on 28 June 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

Its made what Id assume is Polymer, does seem like it'd take a drop better than the gi.

So this makes it heavier? Seems like it would be lighter..I hope our local retailer gets them SOON!

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 04:21 PM

The ones I got are from Asia, and let me tell you, heavy as hell! But they definitely look very sturdy

Too bad I don't have a way to weight them :/

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 04:30 PM

I don't know what KWA did with the construction of this magazine but they're heavy.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 10:17 PM

I don't own an LM4(Though I sure wish I did!) but my guess would be that due to the reduced volume allowed to work with in a PMAG shell, the inner material seems that it must be a more pressure resilient material. This leads me to the thesis that it could be steel, rather than aluminum? Or maybe a more durable type of the same material as before. Speaking of which, are the standard LM4 magazines steel or aluminum?

Edited by General Pickle, 28 June 2012 - 10:18 PM.


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Posted 28 June 2012 - 11:14 PM

For the most part aluminum

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 12:24 AM

Zinc-Aluminium is my guess
Steel is hard to manufacture because its hard
Aluminium is hard because it has high melting point

I'm surprise the weight is heavier on pmag.

EDIT: Just searched ehobbyasia's website
Asia GI mag: 585g (same weight as America version)
Asia PMAG: 730g -wow... I was hoping for a 400-500g mag.

KWA...if that is the weight of america PMAG, please goto you r nearest gun ship, buy a PMAG M-version and 30 rounds of 5.56 (62grain) and weight them together. There's no way a real loaded mag weight that much (even with the packaging). loaded PMAG w/ 55gr is 480g if I reemmber correct is 516g

Edited by kullwarrior, 29 June 2012 - 12:34 AM.


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Posted 29 June 2012 - 06:14 AM

View Postkullwarrior, on 29 June 2012 - 12:24 AM, said:


KWA...if that is the weight of america PMAG, please goto you r nearest gun ship, buy a PMAG M-version and 30 rounds of 5.56 (62grain) and weight them together. There's no way a real loaded mag weight that much (even with the packaging). loaded PMAG w/ 55gr is 480g if I reemmber correct is 516g

Said the same thing to one of the guys at AONW that the PMAG felt heavier then a loaded AR magazine.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:01 PM

yup i checked out the LM4 PTS today and the mag is noticeably heavier then the gi..crazy..im still gonna buy one once my local airsoft store gets them in..

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:35 PM

View PostBoobieM4H, on 29 June 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

yup i checked out the LM4 PTS today and the mag is noticeably heavier then the gi..crazy..im still gonna buy one once my local airsoft store gets them in..

I'm still curious to see if the pmag handles colder weather better than the standard GI. Didn't KJW make plastic bodies for their mags for this reason?

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:44 AM

View Postakiraspeedstar, on 29 June 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

I'm still curious to see if the pmag handles colder weather better than the standard GI. Didn't KJW make plastic bodies for their mags for this reason?
The amount of "cool down" or freezing is going to be the same. When I fired the AKG, they had plastic covered mags. I'm sure the internals on both mags (LM4 and AKG) are metal, but for the AKG the outside had some sort of tough plastic or polymer. So, the temperature is going to be the same on the inside, but may feel a bit warmer on the outside of the AKG mag because it is made of polymer and will be affected less by the freeze up.

In terms of "sun warmed mags," I don't think there will be much difference...

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 09:04 AM

View Postakiraspeedstar, on 29 June 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

I'm still curious to see if the pmag handles colder weather better than the standard GI. Didn't KJW make plastic bodies for their mags for this reason?

i do know kjw mags handle cool down pretty well. but i cant remember if it had plastic body on the mag or not.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 09:31 AM

View Postakiraspeedstar, on 29 June 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

Didn't KJW make plastic bodies for their mags for this reason?

Nope, in Canada we call it Metal Thermold magazine kinda like Jumbo Shrimp.
Plastic shell magazine for the GBB function is not a very good idea in terms of cooldown.

Plastic is a better insulator than metal so it like to keep the temperature where it was.
If you store it 25C, took it out to -25C it will try to keep the mag at 25C a long as possible.
If you shoot it and the mag is now 15C, it will try to keep the mag at 15C slowing warmup.

Doiuble edge sword.

Plastic fiber reinforced polymer shell magazine is probably better against drops and scratch.


As for how KJW manage to get high rounds per fill...if you weigh the bolt carrier and buffer you'll know why. It's super light.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 10:26 AM

View Postkullwarrior, on 30 June 2012 - 09:31 AM, said:


Nope, in Canada we call it Metal Thermold magazine kinda like Jumbo Shrimp.
Plastic shell magazine for the GBB function is not a very good idea in terms of cooldown.

Plastic is a better insulator than metal so it like to keep the temperature where it was.
If you store it 25C, took it out to -25C it will try to keep the mag at 25C a long as possible.
If you shoot it and the mag is now 15C, it will try to keep the mag at 15C slowing warmup.

Doiuble edge sword.

Plastic fiber reinforced polymer shell magazine is probably better against drops and scratch.


As for how KJW manage to get high rounds per fill...if you weigh the bolt carrier and buffer you'll know why. It's super light.

Ah ha...great explanation..and I get what you're saying..and I agree with you..makes total sense now

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 02:00 PM

Since cold weather is mostly irrelevant to me (SoCal), I'm passing on the PMAG. The Gucci points didn't compensate for the extra weight.




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