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#1 z3r0

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:51 AM

Alright so I won a KWA LM4 in a mystery box from ASGI (paid $55) now I was wondering if I could fit an m16a1 stock on. I want to make the rifle look kind of like a Colt 651 or 652. Also will KWA ever make the short mags or any after market receivers?

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 07:31 AM

The LM4 has a mil-spec buffer. As far as I am aware most (if not all) fixed airsoft stocks are for AEGs, so I don't know how much modding would be necessary from that perspective. Additionally, I don't know what the process is like for a RS M4 conversion to a fixed stock. Functionally, I don't know why an M4 would want to be converted to a fixed stock, wouldn't that defeat it's purpose; being more maneuverable than the m16?


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Posted 07 June 2012 - 07:41 AM

It would be a surplus USGI stock and not an AEG stock, and I'm not really sure why I'm doing this but I personally like he feel of the fixed stock alot more than a collapsable stock.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:03 AM

A real fixed stock should fit right on the LM4, make sure it comes with a buffer tube, I don't think the adjustable ones fit the fixed stock.  A real one just has the buffer tube screw into the receiver, then the top screw on the butt plate screws into the end of the buffer tube to hold it on.

#5 z3r0

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:37 AM

Thanks for the help, so I can put any sort of buffer tube on the lm4 that would fit a normal ar-15.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 10:00 AM

Yep should screw right in.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 10:16 AM

Id just like to add you are one lucky guy for getting that gun.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 10:25 AM

I know I am I've been wanting a gbbr for some time but I couldn't justfy paying so much for a rifle that will need upgrades to fuction to its full potential.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 02:18 PM

@ zEr0..yea..uber lucky..kinda jealous haha..

as far as a full stock goes..dont you need a longer buffer? im not sure but ive seen longer than normal buffers and it said it was for m16's..which have the full stocks..and you say you like the feel, ever think about getting a ubr stock? you can have the feel of a solid full stock and have it be retractable. just some thoughts..and btw..welcome to the forums..

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 02:50 PM

From what I've read on some real steal ar forums an M16a1 stock should fit on a standard rifle length buffer tube, so I will need a new tube. But is there an easy way to get the buffer tube off?

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:11 PM

View Postz3r0, on 07 June 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

From what I've read on some real steal ar forums an M16a1 stock should fit on a standard rifle length buffer tube, so I will need a new tube. But is there an easy way to get the buffer tube off?
You will need an Armorer's wrench for the castle nut on the tube...

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:22 PM

I assumed so, I was hoping that there was an easier way that didn't require me to purchase another tool that I won't use but once. Anyone know where to get one cheap? Also on the topic of the magpul stock, I like the look of a rifle that has been use and so when I order the stock I'll ask for the most beat up POS that isn't broken or cracked.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:27 PM

You can unscrew it with a screwdriver and a hammer, just lightly tap it to unscrew it.  As for the buffer tube itself it has some glue or locktight on the threads, heat it up good with a hair drier till it is hot and it will unscrew with your hand (no tools).  Take the spring out before yo heat it up.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:31 PM

View Postz3r0, on 07 June 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

From what I've read on some real steal ar forums an M16a1 stock should fit on a standard rifle length buffer tube, so I will need a new tube. But is there an easy way to get the buffer tube off?

The only problem I could foresee with this, is the recoil spring located in the buffer. Isn't the length of the spring cut for the current buffer?


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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:32 PM

This forum is so helpful, all my questions have been answered. So when I get my I'll post up pictures of my frankenstein Colt 651.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 04:15 PM

One last question, what flash hiders can fit only airsoft ones or can the LM4 accept real steel ones?

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 04:23 PM

View Postz3r0, on 07 June 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

One last question, what flash hiders can fit only airsoft ones or can the LM4 accept real steel ones?
Airsoft 14mm CCW only.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 04:58 PM

The magpul PRS stock I got for my WA came with a longer buffer tube, but it had a metal spacer that slid in it to make up for the difference in length, if the new stock has a longer tube it would be easy to add a spacer from a piece of pipe or something to make the length the same.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:31 PM

I'm not sure but I think collapsable stock tubes are different sized, not sure if thats the best way to describe it. But it's the same as any a2 rifle stock tube(fixed).

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 07:21 PM

The A2 (full size) stock uses a rifle length buffer tube, buffer, and spring. Not compatible with carbine length mounting/buffer system in the real world. Not sure how that would translate into the airsoft GBBR land.




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