Green Gas And Propane?
Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:33 PM
Green gas just ISN'T propane plus silicon oil. It has other additives.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:59 AM
1. Metal adapter, and I going to kill my o-rings? I have a pack of extra moondog ones just in case.
2. I have green gas, I'll probably mix it up a little. As someone else mentioned, should I run the propane dry and store my mags with green gas?
3. Can you MIX the two? What if I had a second or two of green gas when first filling my mag and then filling the rest of it with propane? Theoretically, this should insure that not too much silicone is used and would be the most cost effective.
Edited by kwaispro727, 30 January 2013 - 05:00 AM.
Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:23 AM
For the record. I use propane dry. I do NOT add silicone to my propane....never have. I DO clean and lube my firearms and mags often. Taking great care to lube all o-rings with silicone or frog lube.
Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:49 AM
I'm still wondering about the metal adapter, I've heard good and bad about it. This is the one I have.
Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:19 AM
We can debate, discuss and offer personal "never had any problems" items forever. The only thing that will ever come out is Green Gas and propane fuel are the same thing other than additives. It's the additives that may (or may not) make the difference. KWA, who engineered and makes our gas guns, specifies Green Gas. It always works. They feel strongly enough about propane to state its use will void their warranty. Do as you like.
We go thru this same type discussion constantly with cartridge firing guns as well. Every manufacturer I know of specifically states to use only new, factory ammunition with brass or nickle plated cases and jacketed bullets. Needless to say there are zillions of good olde Eastern Bloc steel cased and jacketed cartridges run thru guns every year with few issues. You pays your money (and you takes your choice). What's called "kabooms" are always reloads. Always...
But since I don't have the facilities of a large laboratory I stick with the manufacturer's specs for maintainence, ammo, (and green gas).
Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:57 AM
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Edited by Outlaw1995, 30 January 2013 - 07:31 AM.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:33 AM
The main component which is of concern when using commercial propane is ethanethiol/ methyl mercaptan which is an additive that is mixed in with commercial propane that gives off that rotten cabbage smell in order to identify gas leaks since propane naturally is an odorless/colorless gas. This additive is along with many possible compounds found in commercially packaged propane has known to react with plastics. This is due to the fact that ethanethiol is also an intermediate compound that is used in manufacture of many forms of plastics. So it can try to revert a solid plastic compound back to its natural liquid state through degradation thus weakening plastics that can later lead to breakage. Also this compound has been known to cause your gun to accumulate gunk that can gum up the gun if not taken care of properly.
Now with that said let me also point out that not all mixtures of commercial propane is the same. Depending on geographical location where its produced they can have varying levels of additives. So someone can report no problems with using propane in Florida but for someone that lives in Washington state may have a totally different result.
So my main point is that use it at your own risk but know that KWA will void your 45 days warranty when they find that you have been using propane. I too wish that commercial propane was a safe cheap alternative to the more expensive GG but this is what we have to work with and it is what it is. I knew when I got into this hobby years ago that it wasn't going to be cheap!
Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:24 AM
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