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#1 kwaispro727

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 09:52 AM

I definitely want to purchase one of KWA's renowned gas guns in the future, but I'm stuck between the M9 PTP and the ATP.  I know they perform the same, but I can't decide which one I like the look of more.  I can get a holster I like for both, so that's not a deciding factor.  It all comes down to looks, and I'm a stick in the mud.

I love the way glocks look, and the ATP is close. Ever since my dad decided he wants to look into a home defence weapon, I've been trying to convince him to check out the Glock 23 and get some professional training.  But, I don't like the way the orange tip looks on the ATP.  I wasn't planning on taking it off, but if there is a way to do so without much hassle I probably would.

On the other hand, I've also always fancied the Beretta M9.  My three favorite pistols are the Desert Eagle, Glock, and M9, so you can see why I'm having trouble LOL.  The orange tip looks much better on the M9 PTP IMO.  Of course I would take it off if possible, but it certainly looks better than the one on the ATP.  Having a "Professional Training Pistol" sounds cooler than an "Adaptive Training Pistol"... not that it matters... :)

So... Can anyone offer me some ideas?  If you own the M9 PTP or the ATP or both for that matter, why do you like one over the other?
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I also have another dilemma.  KM4A1 or GBB pistol?  I'm not sure about that one eithor.  Along with the pistol I would buy an acog-alternative real steel scope for my SR10.  I have a feeling I will be turning it into a DMR sometime soon.

So many descisions...

Edited by kwaispro727, 15 April 2012 - 10:02 AM.


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Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:06 AM

I prefer the ATP.  It's simple, reliable, and looks great IMO.  I like the feel in my hand better than the M9 because of the adjustable back-strap and it costs less.  For the price of the M9 you can get an ATP and an extra mag.  Regarding the orange tip....the ATP wins there too IMO.  Compare them live side by side and see if you agree.  Lastly, if something goes wrong the ATP is easier, IMO, to work on and easier to maintain too.  Again, this is just my opinion.  The M9 is a great gun with lots of history and significant field time.  It's very reliable and probably shoots just a bit harder than the ATP. In the end just go with your gut.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:27 AM

I own the M9 PTP. I myself prefer it to the ATP because I feel with the M9s full metal frame, it's just a much more solid pistol.
I am slightly biased against the ATP because I just don't like it. My friend has it and I just couldn't get used to owning one. It's all down to personal preference here bud

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:54 AM

The M9 was what hit me first... Seems like that's where I'll be going.  Quick question about it, will M93R mags fit it?  I was thinking about buying a 36rd spare with the gun instead of the regular mag.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:27 AM

The extended mags do fit, personally I don't like how they look in the M9

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:47 AM

Hey kwaispro727,
I've owned my M9 PTP for nearly a year now and still haven't regretted the purchase. It is a nice, heavy-weighted pistol with a very good single action trigger (it also does double action). It is dead on accurate, as well as the ATP but the ATP's trigger isn't that great. The ATP is awfully light and easy to swing around, but IMHO it detracts from your accuracy. Both are great guns, but I prefer the M9 PTP or, M9 PTP Tactical, for the rail...

Orange tips... the orange tip can be easily taken off with the ATP 1st gen, 2nd gen is painted onto the barrel just like M9 PTP (thanks greg!) the 2nd gen is a redesigned plastic tip. sorry for the confusion

KWA 32 round magazines and 48 round magazines are compatible with all the M9 PTP NS2 series guns. Meanwhile...

M9 has more physical external features on the gun which makes it a far more fun gun to play with. Safety, decocker... etc.

In my opinion, the M9 is a must buy. ;)

If you're not getting the KM4A1, buy both the ATP and M9!!
The ATP can take the standard 24 round magazines and the 48 round FPG magazines...

Edited by Outlaw1995, 15 April 2012 - 12:07 PM.


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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:58 AM

I haven't seen an ATP with a painted barrel.  That's interesting.  I have seen a redesigned plastic tip in the second run ATP revisions.  That would be the version with the metal spring guide and trigger safety.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 12:11 PM

 aaps59, on 15 April 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

The extended mags do fit, personally I don't like how they look in the M9

How does your M9 fit in the G-Code holster you bought?  Did you buy the XST or the OSH?

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 12:53 PM

 kwaispro727, on 15 April 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:


How does your M9 fit in the G-Code holster you bought?  Did you buy the XST or the OSH?
Actually I bought the SOC holster and am still waiting for the lower cowling from GCode. I have the M9 PTP tactical and am using the TLR1S tac light on it, so I wanted a holster to fit it with the tac light. Il let you know how it is when I finally receive it.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 04:07 PM

By any chance, are there any after market grips for the M9?  I'm fine with the regular ones but I wouldn't mind a little bit of an an enhanced feel.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 05:00 PM

I believe the grips can be replaced with grips made for the real Beretta.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 06:55 PM

 aaps59, on 15 April 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

I believe the grips can be replaced with grips made for the real Beretta.
It depends... the M9 PTP is modeled mostly off of the 92FS, not the many other variants... so make sure you buy 92FS/SB grips for your M9 PTP...




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