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#1 killz_2004

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 07:16 PM

Just got my kg36c in the mail last week and purchased a tenergy 11.1v 20c lipo because of videos ive watched and posts ive read that said this battery would work fine.. i noticed after the 1st shot this is not true. it sometimes would burst in semi. and in full it dry fires every 10 or 15th ball and i have to rewind my mags over and over... very disappointing to say the least. so i was told to downgrade to a 7.4v lipo to stop these problems. but my argument is why do some g36c's have no problems but my brand new model does? instead of downgrading to lower voltage battery and dropping my rof what upgrades can be done to  this gun to have it running as hot as possible. my friends and i just play woods ball so no rules on fps. i thought about mosfet set up and maybe a high torque motor? any thoughts or suggestions?  thanks

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 07:36 PM

You may be suffering from a slight over-cycling issue. It may be that your motor is a bit more powerful than the normal KWA stock  motors. Which is good but in your case, not so good.
There are few ways to address this issue.
1. MOSFET with active braking
2. Stronger spring
3. Lower voltage battery

Hope this helps.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 08:29 PM

Your battery output is faster than the gearbox can cycle.  I'm not sure who you have talked to... but we never said 20c is a suitable battery to use with G36c,  I'm currently only using a 15c only.  7.4v will probably fix the issue  but if you want to keep up the ROF then you'll need to remove the sector clip on the sector gear,  That said, removing sector clip will beat up the tappet plate.  I'm not saying this will damage anything prematurely.  But it's just something to keep in mind.  

I've recently bought a new G36c and converted to a G36k length.  Looks like this will be my primary for 2012.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:15 AM

I use a 11.1v, 15c in my G36c and upgraded the spring to the m130 from the pro-shop and it solved my issues. Shoots great!!!

Allizard,

Would you be willing to share the specs and parts you used to convert your G36 maybe even some pictures would be great.
Thanks

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 02:04 PM

ok thanks alot for the advice. i ordered an m130 spring. hoping to be able to use the 11.1 lipo and i think i will try the mosfet upgrade and hopefully i can get a 400 fps with no over cycling issues. thanks again.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:42 PM

View PostAllizard, on 09 January 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

I've recently bought a new G36c and converted to a G36k length.  Looks like this will be my primary for 2012.

My outer barrel assembly recently ate it, so I was considering converting it to G36K. I'd be be curious to know what parts you used for the conversion, and how it now performs now; in terms of mid-range accuracy, stock I found that the G36c gave my a SR-10 a run for its money.

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 01:37 AM

If you got Facebook account.. here is my G36c project.

http://www.facebook....66539383&type=1

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 04:07 AM

View PostAllizard, on 12 January 2012 - 01:37 AM, said:

If you got Facebook account.. here is my G36c project.

http://www.facebook....66539383&type=1
Nice post...so a STAR front end and Private Parts magwel conversion...nice.

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 05:18 AM

Thanks for the post Allizard!!

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 03:56 PM

Hey, so I recently purchased the H&K G36C and I am very pleased with its performance. But I know it is capable of so much more. What kind of upgrades are there for this gun? I am looking more for more range and better accuracy, possibly a faster fire rate.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 05:00 PM

What's a sector clip and why would I remove it?

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 06:38 PM

View PostCerveza, on 25 March 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

What's a sector clip and why would I remove it?

It's the metal spacer attached to nub that would pull the tappet plate back. The clip delays the tappet plate from releasing when pulled back. By removing the clip the tappet releases once the nub has cycled through. Thus, the compression timing issue is resolved.


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:53 AM

Part Number?

Sorry, having a hard time visualizing this.

I run a 9.6/1600 with all stock gun and have absolutely no feed problems at all.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:27 PM

View PostCerveza, on 26 March 2012 - 08:53 AM, said:

Part Number?

Sorry, having a hard time visualizing this.

I run a 9.6/1600 with all stock gun and have absolutely no feed problems at all.

Based on the gearbox diagram for the G36, there is no part number for it. It's attached to gear #M107 on the right side secured between the center post for the gear and the "mini" tappet plate post. Going by memory, it is in the shape of a disc with cutouts for the two posts.

I'm guessing that KWA extremely fine tunes their guns, so the timing for gear M#107 and the tappet plate was determined using 9.6 volts. I haven't seen if they use sector clips in their KM4's, but that could explain why the KM4 line doesn't have the over cycle problems with Lipo's.



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Posted 26 March 2012 - 07:03 PM

View PostR_King91303, on 26 March 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

Based on the gearbox diagram for the G36, there is no part number for it. It's attached to gear #M107 on the right side secured between the center post for the gear and the "mini" tappet plate post. Going by memory, it is in the shape of a disc with cutouts for the two posts.

I'm guessing that KWA extremely fine tunes their guns, so the timing for gear M#107 and the tappet plate was determined using 9.6 volts. I haven't seen if they use sector clips in their KM4's, but that could explain why the KM4 line doesn't have the over cycle problems with Lipo's.



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For the record, all of the gears are the same in all of the KWA AEGs currently produced.  That said, every sector gear indeed has a sector gear chip.




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