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#1 aj1234119

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 07:10 AM

Would KWA think about stocking m110 springs in their pro shop? The maximum fps at my local cqb fields is 350 with .25s, but for me about 320-330 is ok and reduces wear on my gear box.  I would think at least a few other people might want m110s for one reason or another.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:18 AM

Added our M100 spring used in our CQB and SR7. http://store.kwausa....m100spring.aspx
We only carry the 3 springs, so no M110.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:58 AM

The KWA M100 will put you in a very good spot FPS wise for CQB.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 03:13 PM

Yes, the stock m100 is great for cqb. However, I also occasionally play field and am looking to sell my current JG that I use for field because my sr7 is more accurate. If I am going to use it for both, It would be best to have an 110 or even m120 for more range/penetration through branches, while staying cqb legal at all my local fields.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 03:34 PM

Then I suggest a KWA M120 since it will settle to the limits that you are looking for.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 04:38 PM

Ok, thank you. I was hoping for a m110 to reduce un-needed stress on the gears, but realistically will an m120 put any observable amount of additional stress than an m110 would? (i.e. would the internals fail much faster?)

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 04:46 PM

Harder spring = more stress = greater potential for failure...sorry it is what it is.  I can tell you I have seen documented KWA gearboxes (GEN 1 Believe it or not!) that have gone 180K rounds before a piston failed with no other issues.  That was with an 11.1 LiPo and an SP130 Guarder spring which had the gun firing at 495 settled!  I am using an SP120 with an 11.1 24C LiPo and have 70K+ of real punishing rounds (lots of dry firing) through my gun.  The only thing that has needed replacement was a cylinder head and the bucking.

YMMV.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 04:54 PM

Ok thank you. Those facts are pretty amazing. However, I may have to buy a non-kwa m110 just because I'd rather not add the unneeded stress of an m120 when an m110 would be fine.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 05:48 AM

non KWA springs do not measure their rating the same way and they dont use the same pitch or length....

trust me on this just had a big spring lesson from NG

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 06:25 AM

One nice thing about KWA spring, the fact that they are shorter than most other springs, really helps with gearbox reassembly.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 06:37 PM

That is true. I may even buy a m120 and compress it (not in the gun, of course) for a while to achieve a slightly lower fps than is expected. I need the $12.50 to get free shipping on an order.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 06:49 PM

OK, let us know your results if you do.




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