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#1 WiN&LeGeNd

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 11:06 AM

I'm curious to see what kind of results we are all getting with our KWA guns. For some reason it seems there is this unexplained "fact" that KWA guns are inaccurate in comparison to Marui, CA or ICS stock guns. At least that's what some people seem to say here at my state's airsoft forums. It would be great to have a poll to point out what we can achieve with stock or only slightly modified guns to debunk this.

My results:

Relevent setup information:
KM16BR
Added H-Nub(black big out) and washed the bucking, everything else is stock.

Testing and Conditions:
Approx. 200 +/-5feet with 5~10mph cross wind(varying) using KSC Perfect .3g bb's I was able to hit a tree 10~12 inches in diameter 8 out of 10 times on semi auto. Temp was around 20deg F. Maximum range with hop set relatively flat trajectory was about 210~220 feet. I could likely hit a 18 inch wide target consistently(stationary target) about 240~250 feet if I arched my shots up for extreme range shots.

Notes: The area I was shooting is completely open, there are no trees to shield the bb from the wind.

My Prom. 6.03mm TB comes today, I will report back if I notice any improvements once I get a chance to test again with the new barrel.

Edited by WiN&LeGeNd, 20 January 2009 - 11:09 AM.


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Posted 21 January 2009 - 03:50 PM

Im pretty satisfied with the stock accuracy, but it could be better. I counter this by using TSD .28g BBs and cleaning the barrel alot!

#3 jkaiz

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 10:11 AM

I am unhappy with my range and accuracy in my M4. It is completely stock and I am shooting .2 and .25 bb's, I am looking for some upgrades to increase range and accuracy

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 10:49 AM

View Postjkaiz, on Jan 22 2009, 10:11 AM, said:

I am unhappy with my range and accuracy in my M4. It is completely stock and I am shooting .2 and .25 bb's, I am looking for some upgrades to increase range and accuracy


I suggest you give more details on how far and grouping.  KWA AEG shoots a lot better with .25g.  On average they can shoot 150-175 feet with M4A1.  And don't forget the break in period plus cleaning the barrel more often.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 11:14 AM

i will take a look now ill shoot .25's. I was just shooting .20's and it wasn't within a 1 ft. grouping from 50 ft I have shot about 10k rounds with it

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 06:13 PM

View Postjkaiz, on Jan 22 2009, 11:14 AM, said:

i will take a look now ill shoot .25's. I was just shooting .20's and it wasn't within a 1 ft. grouping from 50 ft I have shot about 10k rounds with it

Did you clean the barrel and adjust the hopup/bucking?!

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 09:38 PM

View Postallizard, on Jan 22 2009, 07:13 PM, said:

Did you clean the barrel and adjust the hopup/bucking?!

That and what kind of bbs are you using?

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 10:19 AM

Ive cleaned the barrel and changed my bb's. I'm shooting .25s and its shooting much better. My only problem is  the left/right accuracy. I changed the spring about a month ago,  and now i'm looking to change the barrel.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 02:30 PM

View Postjkaiz, on Jan 27 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

Ive cleaned the barrel and changed my bb's. I'm shooting .25s and its shooting much better. My only problem is  the left/right accuracy. I changed the spring about a month ago,  and now i'm looking to change the barrel.

Try adjusting the nub or better yet, get a Big Out H nub.  Your grouping will be a lot better.  If you don't do that, changing the inner barrel isn't going to help.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 07:47 PM

HI, i got my kwa m16 stock; its range and accuracy with .25gbbs is very good at 200ft... but i want to make it about

250+ft. Changing only my inner barrel will help?

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 04:30 AM

View Postbauergoe, on Feb 9 2009, 10:47 PM, said:

HI, i got my kwa m16 stock; its range and accuracy with .25gbbs is very good at 200ft... but i want to make it about

250+ft. Changing only my inner barrel will help?

It'll help but getting a new bucking or nub + the barrel will be the best.

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 08:41 AM

It's very hard for any airsoft gun to do 250 feet effective range.

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 11:23 AM

Im sorry for keep asking the same.....But it is possible to improve 200ft range in any way?

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 11:27 AM

View Postbauergoe, on Feb 10 2009, 11:23 AM, said:

Im sorry for keep asking the same.....But it is possible to improve 200ft range in any way?

220 ft. yes.  But don't expect a 2" grouping.




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