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#1 GearsofWarman

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 09:20 PM

Im going to buy a tightbore barrel but i want more out of my gun with everything inside of it can i upgrade to like a M130 or M140 springs with whats already inside the gun or no???

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 09:57 PM

View PostGearsofWarman, on Dec 29 2008, 12:20 AM, said:

Im going to buy a tightbore barrel but i want more out of my gun with everything inside of it can i upgrade to like a M130 or M140 springs with whats already inside the gun or no???

This is what one guy did. I wouldn't recommended it, especially if you want a long life out of you gun, but this is what a KWA can achieve.

http://www.kwausa.co...p?showtopic=417

Edited by Lt. Tony, 28 December 2008 - 09:57 PM.


#3 GearsofWarman

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 11:21 PM

View PostLt. Tony, on Dec 28 2008, 10:57 PM, said:

This is what one guy did. I wouldn't recommended it, especially if you want a long life out of you gun, but this is what a KWA can achieve.

http://www.kwausa.co...p?showtopic=417


But wouldn't that ruin the mechbox or can I buy a whole new mechbox and that motor and a higher quality spring and would it last as it normally would or no

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 03:13 AM

View PostGearsofWarman, on Dec 28 2008, 11:21 PM, said:

But wouldn't that ruin the mechbox or can I buy a whole new mechbox and that motor and a higher quality spring and would it last as it normally would or no


If you  know the basics of taking your AEG apart an M130 wouldnt hurt  :lol:

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 05:35 AM

With a sp140 or sp150 spring the gearbox will break eventually. Not as fast as a stock Marui mechbox. But it will sometime. If you don't mind buying a Systema or HurricanE gearbox those gearboxes will handle springs up to sp170. In my opinion the KWA gearbox is built perfectly as is. Which is meant for sp120s or sp130's. Just to make sure your gun will still run very reliably and ensure that it will last for a very long time. I'd just stick with the 120-130 springs. You can run 140's+ but it will go down sometime. With a guarder sp140 spring I got out 20,000rds (about 5 bags of KSC .2's) before the front of my gearbox cracked. If you do want to go high power I'd suggest buying a new drop in gearbox. I'd be pretty useful having the KWA gearbox for highspeed medium power, and some other reinforced gearbox for just high power.

Edited by W1CKED_TR1X, 29 December 2008 - 05:36 AM.


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Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:49 AM

View PostW1CKED_TR1X, on Dec 29 2008, 06:35 AM, said:

With a sp140 or sp150 spring the gearbox will break eventually. Not as fast as a stock Marui mechbox. But it will sometime. If you don't mind buying a Systema or HurricanE gearbox those gearboxes will handle springs up to sp170. In my opinion the KWA gearbox is built perfectly as is. Which is meant for sp120s or sp130's. Just to make sure your gun will still run very reliably and ensure that it will last for a very long time. I'd just stick with the 120-130 springs. You can run 140's+ but it will go down sometime. With a guarder sp140 spring I got out 20,000rds (about 5 bags of KSC .2's) before the front of my gearbox cracked. If you do want to go high power I'd suggest buying a new drop in gearbox. I'd be pretty useful having the KWA gearbox for highspeed medium power, and some other reinforced gearbox for just high power.


So the KWA mechbox can handle a n M130 spring i wouldnt want to go any higher anyways

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 12:12 PM

View PostGearsofWarman, on Dec 29 2008, 01:49 PM, said:

So the KWA mechbox can handle a n M130 spring i wouldnt want to go any higher anyways

Yes, Allizard said thet LE versions of the KWA are shipped out to LE units for training. They are completely stock with an m150, and I think he said they only use semi.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 05:24 PM

View PostGearsofWarman, on Dec 29 2008, 09:49 AM, said:

So the KWA mechbox can handle a n M130 spring i wouldnt want to go any higher anyways
Ya I gotta guarder sp130 spring in my M4S and I still get a very high rate of fire of around 18rps with 470fps. I'm using the stock gearbox and its been around 6 months since I added the sp130 spring, and barely any signs of fracturing yet. My very first KWA M4 which i put a guarder sp140 in was the one that broke after a couple 20,000 shots. So it took sometime to break. But, it did break. So I'd say stop a a sp or m130 spring to keep it safe and reliable.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 06:12 PM

Personally, I have what I called a "Magic number" for AEG spring.  SP120 is pretty  much the sweet spot for any AEG that used outdoor.  Besides, there are more ways to reach higher FPS without dropping a stronger spring.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 06:55 PM

View Postallizard, on Dec 29 2008, 06:12 PM, said:

Personally, I have what I called a "Magic number" for AEG spring.  SP120 is pretty  much the sweet spot for any AEG that used outdoor.  Besides, there are more ways to reach higher FPS without dropping a stronger spring.
Cylinder, TBB's, Boreing up (but does require higher springs :lol:). Although to get all the FPS you can out of changing your cylinder, you have to throw in a longer inner barrel, or else you'll just loose the air since the BB exits the barrel before the cylinder has fully decompressed.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:05 PM

View Postallizard, on Dec 29 2008, 07:12 PM, said:

Personally, I have what I called a "Magic number" for AEG spring.  SP120 is pretty  much the sweet spot for any AEG that used outdoor.  Besides, there are more ways to reach higher FPS without dropping a stronger spring.

There are because I dont have the money to buy a mechbox with a high torque motor i just dont have the money and the only things i saw to upper your FPS was a TBB and a better spring. I already am ordering a TBB and going to buy th spring but if there are other ways without buying Mechboxes or Torque motors i would love to know them

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 07:37 AM

View PostGearsofWarman, on Dec 30 2008, 12:05 AM, said:

There are because I dont have the money to buy a mechbox with a high torque motor i just dont have the money and the only things i saw to upper your FPS was a TBB and a better spring. I already am ordering a TBB and going to buy th spring but if there are other ways without buying Mechboxes or Torque motors i would love to know them

View Postvic_man4, on Dec 29 2008, 07:55 PM, said:

Cylinder, TBB's, Boreing up (but does require higher springs :lol:). Although to get all the FPS you can out of changing your cylinder, you have to throw in a longer inner barrel, or else you'll just loose the air since the BB exits the barrel before the cylinder has fully decompressed.

Didnt you read the post under Allizards? I stated a few good ways to up your FPS without dropping out money for a high tension spring!

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 09:07 AM

Teflon tapes does wonders.   ;)

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 10:07 AM

View Postallizard, on Dec 30 2008, 12:07 PM, said:

Teflon tapes does wonders.   ;)

Amen to that!  Upped my velocity by 5 FPS.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 10:12 AM

Teflon tape! I've heard it helps pressurize the gun, but where exactly do I want to use it in order to achieve the desired effects?

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 09:30 PM

Ah used it on my UTG m324... It upped the FPS -believe it or not- 30fps. I love teflon tape.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 09:39 PM

Where do you put the tape on a M4?

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 11:37 PM

I wrap some teflon tape in the front of the hop up unit and around the barrel.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 02:12 PM

View Postallizard, on Dec 30 2008, 10:07 AM, said:

Teflon tapes does wonders.   ;)

How would i apply this tape to my gun and where

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 02:46 PM

I wrap some teflon tape in the front of the hop up unit and around the barrel.

That's how :D

Edited by Lt. Tony, 31 December 2008 - 02:46 PM.





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