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#141 ChiTownBuffalo

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 05:38 AM

View PostGorilla, on 10 February 2010 - 06:18 PM, said:

A new one to add:

The Magpul AFG (Angled Fore Grip) fits TIGHT on the bottom rail of the SR5/ 10/ 12. It requires some sanding on the mating surface of the AFG to get it to fit. Aided with some light taps with a rubber mallet you can get in into position and screw in the fixing bolt. Unless you plan on taking it on/off repeatedly it should be fine. If you need/want to take it on and off repeatedly, keep sanding the mating surface until it goes on easier... I just didn't have the need as mine is on and staying there in one position.

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I didn't have a problem with my AFG.  It was tight, but I could move it around fairly easily.  But then again, I sometimes resort to retard strength.

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 06:32 AM

View PostChiTownBuffalo, on 01 March 2010 - 05:38 AM, said:

I didn't have a problem with my AFG.  It was tight, but I could move it around fairly easily.  But then again, I sometimes resort to retard strength.

Fit on what model/ year?

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 04:22 PM

Which vn midcaps will fit in my sr12? i know the list says the echo 1 190 round ones and the king arms 85 round ones are "tight fits", but other sources say they dont feed well. so what is the best vn midcap for me to buy?

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:59 PM

Here's how my experience with batteries went down (I have a KM4S-System):

-Bought gun and 10.8V nunchuck style, not a chance of it fitting.
-Bought a 9.6v 1600 mah mini-style battery, and still no go
-Modified the internal wiring: Re-routed wiring over top of the barrel on the left side, and coming through to the bottom side of the barrel on the right side. This eliminated a lot of excess wiring in the foregrip area
-Tried 9.6V mini again, no go
-Removed the fuse holder, but kept the fuse for safety (Kinda looks sloppy now, but I still have the protection of a fuse and I can peep through the vent hole near rail number 25 to see if the fuse has popped). This further increased the available space for a battery. i'll work on cleaning this up, but it's 100% functional right now.
-Tried 9.6v mini again, no go
-Mutilated mini battery: Removed plastic end caps, removed about an inch of wiring length, re-wrapped battery in black electrical tape for a sleeker look
-Result: Perfect fit.

What would I do in the future? First, I would recommend to KWA to eliminate a lot of the wiring in the fore grip area. It isn't needed, it takes up battery space, and it doesn't look clean. Second, start with a mini battery pack that doesn't have plastic end caps. And third, buy the right tools. My Sog Seal Pup took a beating on this project.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 04:25 PM

View Postallizard, on 09 September 2008 - 09:07 PM, said:

Last update: Feb 5th, 2009

MAGAZINES
Realcaps
1.  STAR 30 round realcaps (USER TESTED)
2.  MAG 30 round realcaps (USER TESTED)
3.  A&K 30 round realcaps (USER TESTED)
4.  Star 30 Rd Mag - "little bit of wobble" (USER TESTED)
5.  Star VN 20 Rd Mag - "Tight fit" (USER TESTED)
6.  Classic Army 30 round (USER TESTED)

Lowcaps
1.  G & G mid cap mags 79 rounds (USER TESTED)

Midcaps
1.  Tokyo Marui (USER TESTED)
2.  Echo 1 VN 190 rd mag - "tight fit" (USER TESTED)
3.  A&K 70 rd MAg - "tight Fit" (USER TESTED)
4.  G&P metal midcaps - very tight fit (USER TESTED)
5.  MAG brand 100rnd Mid-caps (USER TESTED) - Inconclusive.  Some works, some don't.
6.  King Arms VN style midcaps - perfect (USER TESTED)
7.  Classic Army Mid-caps (USER TESTED).  New report 130rd don't feed.
8.  S Arms 160rd midcaps - KWA TESTED, however new users report said some isn't feeding.
9.  Star P-Mag - tight fit. (USER TESTED)
10. Magpul P-Mag - tight fit, need light filing on mag well (USER TESTED)

Hicaps
1. JG (USER TESTED)
2.  G&G (USER TESTED)
3.  G&P (USER TESTED)
4.  DeepFire M16 High Cap with 300 rounds (USER TESTED)
5.  A&K Box Mag - "tight fit" (USER TESTED)
6.  G & G high cap mags 450 rounds (USER TESTED)
7.  Classic Army hi-caps (USER TESTED)
8.  TM hi-caps (USER TESTED)
9. ICS 450 round High Cap (USER TESTED)
10. CA 190 round High Cap (USER TESTED)
11. Echo1 High Cap with 300 rounds (USER TESTED)

DBoys mid caps 68 bb's (i think thats the capacity)work very well too. :thumbsup:

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 05:48 PM

View PostAcorn Avenger, on 10 March 2010 - 04:25 PM, said:

DBoys mid caps 68 bb's (i think thats the capacity)work very well too. :thumbsup:

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 06:42 PM

I am having the local Batteries Plus build a custom nun-chuck 10.8v Ni-mh battery pack for the SR 10 stock.  We tried the cells without the wiring to "eye-ball" the fit.  Looks tight but the stock closed completely and it seemed to fit nicely.  Hopefully they will build it this week, will update the forum on the results.  This will give an alternative to the exotic Lithium Battery.  I work in the battery industry and I try to stay away from Lithium Batteries.

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 09:27 PM

I installed some rail accessories onto my KWA KM-4 RIS and they fit beautifully!

Tango Down BGV-MK46 Vertical Grip
Daniel Defense Rail Panels

I had to stick the bottom RIS rail into my freezer for a few minutes before sliding the Tango Down Grip on. The grip was an very tight fit, but freezing the rail made it go on a bit easier. However, some of the plastic on the grip got shaved off in the process, but it fits just fine!

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 06:33 PM

Does anyone know if the Magpul MOE pistol grip works with the new 2009 M4 RIS? :iiam:

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 06:37 PM

View Postarunser10@aol.com, on 18 March 2010 - 06:33 PM, said:

Does anyone know if the Magpul MOE pistol grip works with the new 2009 M4 RIS? :iiam:
Yes. Needs slight mods.:gun:

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 06:47 PM

View Postgcw360, on 18 March 2010 - 06:37 PM, said:

Yes. Needs slight mods.:gun:
What kind of slight mods?

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 07:19 PM

View Postarunser10@aol.com, on 18 March 2010 - 06:47 PM, said:

What kind of slight mods?
Some slight sanding at the back of the grip where the sling mount abuts it and some sanding at the points where the grip is seated at the rear of the trigger. It is more apparent as you attach the grip. It is not a difficult mod if you take your time and don't over sand the grip. :gun:

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 11:44 PM

Just got my KM4 today...

Mag Metal Midcaps 190rnds = Perfect fit and perfect feed. I love them. They click in place and they drop out when you push the mag release. A little tiny wobble but I want that =P

Magpul PTS 120 rnds = Very tight fit. They feed well, but they're a pain to pull in and out. Time to sand down...

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 06:34 PM

View Postc1umsyb3ar, on 18 March 2010 - 11:44 PM, said:

Just got my KM4 today...

Mag Metal Midcaps 190rnds = Perfect fit and perfect feed. I love them. They click in place and they drop out when you push the mag release. A little tiny wobble but I want that =P

Magpul PTS 120 rnds = Very tight fit. They feed well, but they're a pain to pull in and out. Time to sand down...
I just bought some more PMAGS. The good news is that it doesn't take much filing to make them a perfect fit. And they feed flawlessly. I have the MAG mag 190's also. They are good to but not as sexy as the PMAGs in my book. Also, in a skirmish, if I throw a PMAG on a cement floor they don't get messed up. The MAGs will dent. I have a questions for you. What is the capacity that you are finding with the MAG 190's? I find that much above 160 it's a really tight fit. Please let me know you experience. :gun:

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 10:41 PM

View Postc1umsyb3ar, on 18 March 2010 - 11:44 PM, said:


Mag Metal Midcaps 190rnds = Perfect fit and perfect feed. I love them. They click in place and they drop out when you push the mag release. A little tiny wobble but I want that =P


Where did you get the midcaps, if I may ask.
I searched up and down google and each site is out of stock.

It still isn't exactly clear to me on what midcap mag is a 100% chance of feeding well and fitting easily into the gun.
Could someone steer me into the right direction?

Edited by 808greenday, 20 March 2010 - 01:47 PM.


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Posted 21 March 2010 - 04:06 PM

View Postgcw360, on 19 March 2010 - 06:34 PM, said:

I just bought some more PMAGS. The good news is that it doesn't take much filing to make them a perfect fit. And they feed flawlessly. I have the MAG mag 190's also. They are good to but not as sexy as the PMAGs in my book. Also, in a skirmish, if I throw a PMAG on a cement floor they don't get messed up. The MAGs will dent. I have a questions for you. What is the capacity that you are finding with the MAG 190's? I find that much above 160 it's a really tight fit. Please let me know you experience. :gun:

Agreed on the Pmags. They look SO good on the gun. When I first filled up the MAG I only got about 150 to fit in there (Bone dry). So then I squeezed some KWA Silicone Oil down there and fill the mag up as much as I can and I let it sit there for about 4 hours. So I just spent a lil' time just pushing BB's further and further down the magazine until I felt that it couldn't hold anymore. I was about to put about 180 +/- 5 or so. The mags just need a little bit of time to be worked in since I'm guessing that the spring is just really long. Let me know how you do =)

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 04:12 PM

View Post808greenday, on 19 March 2010 - 10:41 PM, said:

Where did you get the midcaps, if I may ask.
I searched up and down google and each site is out of stock.

It still isn't exactly clear to me on what midcap mag is a 100% chance of feeding well and fitting easily into the gun.
Could someone steer me into the right direction?

MAG Metal Midcaps 190 rnds are available at AirsoftGI the last time I checked.

*just checked and found out they're out of stock*

I guess you're just going to have to wait for them to restock. I can tell you that they fit in my gun perfectly though 100%. =) They feed perfectly as well, and they only drop about 3 BB's after the magazine is empty.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 08:15 PM

View Postc1umsyb3ar, on 21 March 2010 - 04:12 PM, said:

I guess you're just going to have to wait for them to restock. I can tell you that they fit in my gun perfectly though 100%. =) They feed perfectly as well, and they only drop about 3 BB's after the magazine is empty.

Thanks for the info.
I guess I'll go with these or either the Pmags.  :whistle:

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 10:25 AM

Has anyone tried the Madbull talon ris kit to take the place of the front of the upper receiver?
http://www.airsoftgi...roducts_id=1955

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 09:03 PM

View PostBuruzia, on 23 March 2010 - 10:25 AM, said:

Has anyone tried the Madbull talon ris kit to take the place of the front of the upper receiver?
http://www.airsoftgi...roducts_id=1955

Yes, I got it to fit.




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