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#1 Shmoogly3

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Posted 11 October 2008 - 09:07 PM

I am getting a new motor for km4 cqb and I would like some suggestions on a good one. I was thinking a matrix turbo motor or a guarder high torque motor. I'm going to be putting a new guarder m110 spring in my gun pretty soon and I would like to get the best ratio of trigger response and rof. I would think that a turbo motor would be ideal.

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 10:01 AM

A turbo motor would be better for your CQB, because high torque is for a much higher spring than an m110.

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 07:18 PM

 Shmoogly3, on Oct 11 2008, 09:07 PM, said:

I am getting a new motor for km4 cqb and I would like some suggestions on a good one. I was thinking a matrix turbo motor or a guarder high torque motor. I'm going to be putting a new guarder m110 spring in my gun pretty soon and I would like to get the best ratio of trigger response and rof. I would think that a turbo motor would be ideal.

Systema Turbo Motor Long:

http://www.airsoftgi...roducts_id=1844

Turbo's are for springs less than M120, and you said that your using a M110, so you should be good.

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 08:09 PM

I wanted to try the new systema turbo motor, but it is $100 just for a motor and it'll be too much for my internal set up. I would probably have to get a set of speed gears. Has anybody tried the guarder high speed motor or the g&p m120 high speed motor

Edited by Shmoogly3, 12 October 2008 - 08:12 PM.


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Posted 13 October 2008 - 05:58 PM

 Shmoogly3, on Oct 12 2008, 09:09 PM, said:

I wanted to try the new systema turbo motor, but it is $100 just for a motor and it'll be too much for my internal set up. I would probably have to get a set of speed gears. Has anybody tried the guarder high speed motor or the g&p m120 high speed motor

What is your internal set-up? Stock KWA gearbox with the addition of a M110? Im sure the systema wont rip your gears if thats what your worried about. And get deans connectors if your looking for some more ROF and trigger response.

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 09:29 AM

 Shmoogly3, on Oct 13 2008, 12:09 AM, said:

I wanted to try the new systema turbo motor, but it is $100 just for a motor and it'll be too much for my internal set up. I would probably have to get a set of speed gears. Has anybody tried the guarder high speed motor or the g&p m120 high speed motor

I have been running Systema Blue Turbo with 110 Spring, Zero Cylinder, Stock gears,Tight Bore, Lipo 11.1 Volt, Mosfet control and get 370-375 at 32 bps w/ .20 bbs. I have put through about 20,000 rounds with no issues at all.

Edited by Blacssr@bellsouth.net, 14 October 2008 - 09:35 AM.


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Posted 15 October 2008 - 06:59 AM

Really, but the systema motor you have is the regular turbo motor or something like that right. There is a brand new speed motor thats $100 by systema. It's too expensive for me. Just to raise my rof alittle I took out my fuse and just use the fuse connectors. It actually works really good, instead of sottering them together I put them together and rapped them with electric tape.

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Posted 15 October 2008 - 08:42 AM

 Blacssr@bellsouth.net, on Oct 14 2008, 01:29 PM, said:

I have been running Systema Blue Turbo with 110 Spring, Zero Cylinder, Stock gears,Tight Bore, Lipo 11.1 Volt, Mosfet control and get 370-375 at 32 bps w/ .20 bbs. I have put through about 20,000 rounds with no issues at all.

Which MOSFET control? Did you buy a built product or build your own? This is something I plan to soon try but considering just buying the parts and build myself; be a fun side project. This is unless I decide that I want motor breaking and fun stuff like 3-round bursts.  

Very sweet setup by the way.

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Posted 15 October 2008 - 12:15 PM

 threadkill, on Oct 15 2008, 12:42 PM, said:

Which MOSFET control? Did you buy a built product or build your own? This is something I plan to soon try but considering just buying the parts and build myself; be a fun side project. This is unless I decide that I want motor breaking and fun stuff like 3-round bursts.  

Very sweet setup by the way.


Extreme Fire Mosfets, Terry is awesome to deal with. His fets are the best around and so is his support. I ordered 3 long AB setups from him and put them in all my KWA guns. I have the CQB, M16 Battle and M4 tactical. Once you run the Mosfets you can not go back to standard trigger setup. I also run ~8400uf worth of caps in each gun to improve trigger response. Between the fets and the caps the trigger response is very quick and crisp.




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