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#1 Dr Pepper 6pk

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 01:52 AM

Is the KSC MP7 different from the KWA MP7? Some people on Arnies have already reported that after a few mags the blowback cylinder cracked and was afraid this would be apparent on the KWA MP7 too.

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 08:38 AM

Yes there is a different.

KSC version is not reinforced to use green gas.

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 10:55 PM

ah gotcha just verifying

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 01:45 PM

allizard, how is the KWA version reinforced?  does it use different plastic for the loading nozzle/blowback cylinder?  This seems to be the flawed part in the KSC.

Also, are the mags interchangeable?  I note that the KSC ones are 40, not 48 round.  Am slightly concerned that no-one has any spare magazines for sale!

thanks a lot,

Edited by galactica, 30 August 2009 - 01:47 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2009 - 11:17 AM

nozzle have different material.  Also our rocket valve is metal.

The mag is really 42 rd.  not 48 rd. We need to change the description. And yes.. the mags are the same between Umarex and KSC version.

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 06:42 PM

Ok ive got both versions over here.

you can swap the KWA internals into a KSC body... ksc and kwa mags work in both. One thing I noticed was the pad in the stock for the bolt to hit during shooting is thicker on the KWA version

now for the one little thing I cant understand. if the KWA is licensed then why does it have inaccurate trademarks?
on the left side it says: Cal 6mm BB   energy > 1J
on the right side it says: HK with a serial
---it should say-- (as it does on KSC and pictures of real ones I have seen)
Left: Cal 4.6mmx30
Right: Heckler & Koch   GmbH  serial

Mag: no 4.6x30 or HK on the baseplate

the grip and silver plate under gun are accurate however. I can understand the white lettering saying its licensed but why the trade inaccuracies?

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 04:36 PM

View PostAlundiel, on 15 October 2009 - 06:42 PM, said:

the grip and silver plate under gun are accurate however. I can understand the white lettering saying its licensed but why the trade inaccuracies?
the LE Sector that purchased the MP7s from us couldn't differentiate the T&E Sample from the live piece.  We molded the training caliber and power output onto the receivers to keep them from having potential problems.  

Added, it differentiates the marketed regional power outputs.  Umarex-KWA's (US) specs are much higher and can take far more abuse than their KSC counterparts.

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 07:21 AM

thanks for the explanation :)

im a bit of a trade whore (as is evidenced by having an armycode g36 :)) i just swapped the better kwa internals inside the ksc body and am very happy (barrel assembly, bolt, and stock (for better recoil pad))

regardless, props to yall for making a kickass gun. Been using it in CQB and loving it.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 03:18 PM

wow, I am glad I read this. I almost bought a KSC Mp7 last night.

So if I buy the KWA MP7 and run HFC 134a gas, It should be pretty reliable right? Or do I need to run Propane for it to cycle correctly?

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 05:02 PM

If you have the KWA/Umarex version of MP7 then it's safe to use Green gas.  With the KSC version.  Stay with HFC134a.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 01:05 PM

whats the diffrence between the kwa mp7 and the ksc mp7 taiwan version?

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 06:24 PM

KSC MP7 aka.  KWA MP7 Asia version (except for Japan) have higher FPS output then Umarex version.

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 01:12 PM

i heard that the KSC version is not licensed by H&K,is that true?

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 01:18 PM

View Postallizard, on 29 November 2009 - 06:24 PM, said:

KSC MP7 aka. KWA MP7 Asia version (except for Japan) have higher FPS output then Umarex version.
How much higher Allizard? Thanks.:gun:

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 12:02 AM

View PostPhantom, on 17 January 2010 - 01:12 PM, said:

i heard that the KSC version is not licensed by H&K,is that true?

Trade mark licensing doesn't apply in Japan as long as the products sold in Japan only.

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 12:32 PM

View Postallizard, on 18 January 2010 - 12:02 AM, said:

Trade mark licensing doesn't apply in Japan as long as the products sold in Japan only.
thanks for the fast reply cause ive seen some guys trying to import "G"s and USPs by KSC through customs with the trademarks intact,hey just a suggestion you should get your KWA "KP45" offically licensed by H&K i thought about importing a KSC USP tactical btw i heard later on you will release a MP9 and a MK23 are those licensed? or can you get the MP9 without paying B&T (ive seen KSC TMP/SPP/MP9's everywhere with marks intact)

example:http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/airsoft_KSC_B_T_MP9_Gas_Gun_p/95003.htm

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 12:49 PM

Guys doesnt the real MP7 only hold 40 rounds? maybe+1 (chambered) I rather have it accurate to realism than have 48 rounds which just sounds odd anyway. When I speed load it I get about 40 rounds every time without forcing.

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 03:25 PM

View PostHitman07, on 19 January 2010 - 12:49 PM, said:

Guys doesnt the real MP7 only hold 40 rounds? maybe+1 (chambered) I rather have it accurate to realism than have 48 rounds which just sounds odd anyway. When I speed load it I get about 40 rounds every time without forcing.
It's either 40 or 42 not 48.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 11:22 PM

View PostHitman07, on 19 January 2010 - 12:49 PM, said:

Guys doesnt the real MP7 only hold 40 rounds? maybe+1 (chambered) I rather have it accurate to realism than have 48 rounds which just sounds odd anyway. When I speed load it I get about 40 rounds every time without forcing.

the HK MP7 comes in 3 different magazine lengths of pistol(20), SMG(30), and extended (40)

Ours replicates the 40rd extended magazine, which accounts for it's odd-ball size




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