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#1 StealthTaskForce

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:45 PM

I have a CQR Mod 2 with stock internals and a 7.2V 1600 mAh G&P battery.. I didn't change the spring on the internals and I've got a KWA high torque motor. Yet tonight when I was practicing reloading quickly and shooting with my off hand, the hand grip got really hot. When I took out my battery, I found that that was hot as well. Not as hot as the motor though, which almost got to the point that I couldn't touch it for longer than a couple seconds. I put the mid cap through it, and two hi caps that were 3/4 full. So all together maybe 750 rounds. About 400 of them were shot at full auto, with the longest span being about 7 seconds. Most of them were bursts of about 2-3 seconds, and then the rest were semi as I was practicing lefty. Are these two components supposed to get this hot? Because when I'm training, everything got hotter than it did when I was actually having a skirmish with my friends. So I'm just wondering if I should be worried or not. Also, when I fire in full auto, there is a kind of electric smell to it.

And yes I know that some heat is to be expected as it is firing full auto, but I'm pretty sure it isn't supposed to get THAT hot, is it?

Edited by StealthTaskForce, 03 June 2014 - 05:09 PM.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:46 AM

That motor runs hot. If you're noticing its getting hotter it may be time to replace the motor brushes, along with cleaning the commutator. It might work, there is a chance the motor has reached its lifespan.

If it heats up that weakens the springs, magnets & glazes the brushes. It should be addressed.

If you're not using one a vented pistol grip will help.
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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:50 AM

I'm not sure if I've just started noticing it, or if it is time to replace stuff. And since I don't know what the brushes and commutators are, can you post pictures? And I don't have a vented grip, though I did lower the motor height last night after the fact, and am going to try it out again today and see if that helps.

And since it has hardly been used, I doubt I would need to replace the motor, but if so, which one should I get that will increase ROF without needing to change anything else?

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 12:48 PM

Through out this thread you will see the parts. Post 54 shows a clean comm
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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:15 PM

I can suggest some motors. Are you sure your battery is 7.2 volts, how many cells does the pack have?

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:26 PM

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:29 PM

It's a G&P battery

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:33 PM

Total of six cells 3 on each side?

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:54 PM

No there's 4 on each side. I'll post a second picture of the whole thing

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:55 PM

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 05:58 PM

Battery is 9.6 volts.

Some to consider
If its in your budget this is a well made hand wound motor
http://www.clandesti...otor-p-269.html

Machine wound, van uses the high speed version i use the high torque. Might want to change the pinion
http://www.clandesti...otor-p-578.html

Both will increase your ROF

SHS is another good budget motor, runs a little hot.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 06:46 PM

Then I wonder why its labeled wrong :blinded:  but as for the motors, I don't really mind it running hot as long as that's what it's supposed to do. I wasn't sure if my KWA Torque motor was supposed to so I was checking it out. I went to test again today to see if the motor height had anything to do with it, and after 1 mid cap on semi, battery died. So I'm charging it and will test that tomorrow after finals. But right now, nothing is really in the budget as I need to get my pistol operating for Ballahack in a couple weeks XD I'm going up to Virginia Beach in a couple weeks and me and my friend are going to spend every possible minute there. So my funds are first concentrated on fixing the pistol, then BBs, and then a new motor. But for a faster speed without changing anything but the motor, which would be the one to choose? The hand wound, or machine wound high speed?

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:09 PM

Battery might be shot. Is that your only battery? I sold a bunch of them on ebay a few weeks ago. I wish they had a selling forum.
I sold many good parts i rather sell to members on the forum.

There both high speed the A1 is "balanced" its HT & HS. And a few other nice features. I have a few Lonex motors, it would be my choice of the two.

Is that your only battery pack?

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 03:40 AM

Yes it is my ony battery pack, but I know it's not shot. I haven't been charging it the last 3 or 4 times I've used it so I was just waiting for it to die


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 06:25 AM

OK, If it will help you i have a battery pack 9.6V 1500 It was in a used gun but the insulated wire is cut. Electric tape will fix it.
And a HS guarder motor new, KWA stock new. If it would help you Its yours. No Charge as i don't use them.

Battery seems new, the insulation was cut
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Guarder motor, still not broken in
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KWA stock never used
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If this will help you ill send them free

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 08:29 AM

Hell yes it will help O.O thanks so much! And my friend actually has that same battery in his Troy M4. Is that a Tamiya connector? Because if it is, it will give me great practice with soldering it to a deans.


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:15 PM

Alright well I just did my test with the adjusted motor height, and that did absolutely nothing. The motor housing still got pretty hot as well as the battery. On the plus side, I'm getting slightly better at changing mags quicker XD

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:29 PM

NP,  it is a Tamiya might be a mini. It should hold you over until you can make your upgrades. I never tried the battery it looks OK.
The guarder isn't broken in, it runs warm & the KWA is new It should help.

PM me your name and mailing address, ill get it out tomorrow.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:34 PM

Alright done. Thanks again for the motors and battery! I'm having some other problems with the gun too, but it's accuracy so I'll start another thread lol

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 06:07 PM

If the sub C pack is too big I found a 2/3 8.4 volt pack without a connector, i sent that also. hopefully one will fit.




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