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#1 Chicken

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 03:15 PM

I have been wanting a new pistol but I can't decide which one to get.  I am torn between a usp, a usp compact, and a cz-75.  If anyone out there has any experience with these particular guns I would appreciate any and all suggestitions.

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 07:15 PM

Get the USP not the compact though. It's way more badass

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 06:15 AM

The USP is a really nice gun.  I got one used off my buddy, it's a year old and has been used a bit, and is working perfectly.  The paint is worn off a lot, but it's never had to have a single part replaced. I would recommend staying away from the compact as well unless you have small hands.

I can also truly vouch for the M9.  I have put that gun through more things than any other airsoft gun.  I've dropped it in a puddle. I've thrown it 20 feet to a friend who's gun jammed.  I've even landed on it before I got my G-Code hard holster.  The gun is a tank and shoots at 340 consistently, harder in the summer.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 09:40 AM

I would suggest other pistol manufactures but since this is for kwa only I won't.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 03:52 PM

View PostBLATEY, on 31 March 2014 - 09:40 AM, said:

I would suggest other pistol manufactures but since this is for kwa only I won't.
Now you have me curious lol.  Who else would you suggest? I don't know of anyone who makes a better gas USP than KWA.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 06:57 PM

Oh, I meant other pistol models  that he did not list. Personally, Tokyo Marui will always be my favorite with pistols(sorry kwa). Their deagle, p226, and 1911s are fantastic, so I've heard.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 03:37 AM

Well you can't compare TMs Desert Eagle with KWA, however I would like to be able to one day... What makes you think their p226 and/or 1911s are better?  In my experience, KJW has been better than TM.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 05:17 AM

Kwas m226 looks cool but every thing I've heard about it is really a hit and miss, i do like kwas 1911 probably their best gbb gun, but I'm not a big fan of the kick of kwas, it's too fast and not enough kick, yes I know a real gun has a fast slide. One more reason I'm not to fond of about kwas is( this really isn't that big one just more of an annoyance?) you can't or rather shouldn't dry fire kwa gbb pistols. I actually own( I know every one is going to hate me for this) a WE p226 it's a fantastic gun but will never beat kwa or Tokyo marui.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 06:22 AM

Well you shouldn't really dry fire any gun lol.  I've dry fired my M9 a bit but it's been fine.  KWAs guns are made to function more for LE than kick or high FPS though.  I do wish my LM4 kicked harder.  I think the M9 has nice kick though, because the metal slide is pretty heavy so it takes a lot to send it back.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 06:31 AM

Yes I do agree with you, but maybe in the near future they will have realistic say 9mm kick heck why not a .45. Lol I'm getting too into airsoft gbb pistols now.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 07:20 AM

Id go USP (not compact). Things a beauty.

Edited by Rain Man, 02 April 2014 - 07:21 AM.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:36 PM

I agree with you Rain Man. I have an HFC M9 and an HFC M166 (which is the replica of the USP .45 Compact) but I prefer the USP over the M9. The USP has more of a realistic feel to it. It kicks harder than the M9 so I guess that's why I like it more. Either way, I prefer the USP though I can fire both with equal skill as my dad has a real steel M9.

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 07:30 AM

View PostStealthTaskForce, on 02 April 2014 - 12:36 PM, said:

I agree with you Rain Man. I have an HFC M9 and an HFC M166 (which is the replica of the USP .45 Compact) but I prefer the USP over the M9. The USP has more of a realistic feel to it. It kicks harder than the M9 so I guess that's why I like it more. Either way, I prefer the USP though I can fire both with equal skill as my dad has a real steel M9.
Haha nice! Yeah i think the USP and the M9 are awesome. Especially the USP. I like m1911's but just like M4's, everyone has one, and there's way to many styles. The only one i would carry is the WW2 A1.

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 05:49 PM

Yeah there are a bunch of 1911's. BUT, you can also customize them a lot just like the M4. But one of the things that I like about my USP is the fact that I have automatic on it :clap: I'm going to have fun with this thing when I get the mag lip fixed. Part of the side busted off and it's been a b**ch to find a replacement for <_< But I did finally find one on Evike lol so it's all good.

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 09:55 AM

View PostBLATEY, on 01 April 2014 - 06:31 AM, said:

Yes I do agree with you, but maybe in the near future they will have realistic say 9mm kick heck why not a .45. Lol I'm getting too into airsoft gbb pistols now.

That wouldn't work for one simple reason. BB's leave the barrel too slowly. If it had realistic kick, all your shots would be 30 higher than wherever you aimed. The reason handguns can have so much recoil and still be able to hit the target is because even the slowest round in the world (.45) travels approx. 900 FPS. That's 10,800 inches per second. The average .45 barrel is around 5 inches or so. The bullet exits the barrel in a measurement of time so minuscule, recoil can't affect it too much. But slow that way down, even to 350 FPS, and the recoil would be too much. Now don't get me wrong, that would be amazing to have so much recoil that it was realistic. I would love that so much. But the physics just aren't there.

Edited by Pyro_Buster, 04 April 2014 - 09:56 AM.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 11:52 AM

View PostPyro_Buster, on 04 April 2014 - 09:55 AM, said:

That wouldn't work for one simple reason. BB's leave the barrel too slowly. If it had realistic kick, all your shots would be 30° higher than wherever you aimed. The reason handguns can have so much recoil and still be able to hit the target is because even the slowest round in the world (.45) travels approx. 900 FPS. That's 10,800 inches per second. The average .45 barrel is around 5 inches or so. The bullet exits the barrel in a measurement of time so minuscule, recoil can't affect it too much. But slow that way down, even to 350 FPS, and the recoil would be too much. Now don't get me wrong, that would be amazing to have so much recoil that it was realistic. I would love that so much. But the physics just aren't there.
Haha wowwww pyro! Way to kill our fun with science XD

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 07:32 PM

View PostStealthTaskForce, on 04 April 2014 - 11:52 AM, said:

Haha wowwww pyro! Way to kill our fun with science XD

Sorry! XP

I do truly wish it could be there though. But it isn't.

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 09:14 PM

KWA's M9's are probably the most refined, most solid pistol in their line up. Being a PTP just helps the argument. I own a USP compact pre-trades, I like it, but I have had some minor trouble with it, but they were all 10 minute fixes or less. I'd say look into the M9 OR the CZ(KZ)75. Also, the ATP is a wonderful concept gun at PTP, it's just not my type. (I was never a fan of the base Glock 17)

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 04:40 AM

Yes, I'm sure any KWA gun will be perfect as long as you take care of it.

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 07:40 AM

View PostChicken, on 30 March 2014 - 03:15 PM, said:

I have been wanting a new pistol but I can't decide which one to get.  I am torn between a usp, a usp compact, and a cz-75.  If anyone out there has any experience with these particular guns I would appreciate any and all suggestitions.
It's a matter of personal preference for the most part.  Here are some things to consider.

The HK lineup is now being distributed in the US exclusively by Umarex.  All warranty work and tech support is handled by them, not KWA.  The good news is that you get a 1 year warranty.

The CZ 75 has had fewer issues in the past vs the HK pistols and therefore my be more reliable.  So, longer warranty, or greater reliability, which is better?

Also, holding the gun may be all you really need to do to determine which you like more.  If there is a local shop near you with those guns I suggest you pay them a visit.  Hold the gun, perhaps test fire it, determine which features you like, and go from there.

Lastly, consider the carry options for both pistols.  If you have your heart set on a Blackhawk Serpa you won't find one listed for the CZ 75, though rumor has it the model for the Beretta 92FS fits. You will find Blackhawk holsters for the HK models. However, there are plenty of affordable options from makers like: Fobus, Safariland (less affordable), Blade-tech, and Sig

See for a sampling: http://www.cheaperth...d/CZ_75_Holster

There are far more options for the HK line-up: http://www.cheaperth...nt&pagenumber=1

Hope this helps.




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