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#1 Phillip

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 05:44 AM

Not sure if I am posting this in the correct place, if not, please move it.

I've been mulling over buying a GBBR for the past few weeks, and the ones I've had my eyes on are the KWA AKG 74 or Kriss Vector. I've heard great things about both guns. Been playing airsoft for probably about 5 years on and off now, but I've never had a reliable gun other than a SOCOM Gear 1911! I have a decent CQB gun (UMAREX UMP .45), but it has its (plentiful) problems. I have a few questions regarding both.
Which one would be a better gun for field but could also be used for CQB?
What is the range compared?

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 11:57 AM

I have a few friends with KRISS Vectors who intended to use them outdoors primarily, but they found that the accuracy just wasn't quite what they expected. One of said friends installed the EVO II and Maple Leaf system with the tight bore barrel and even then hasn't managed to get outstanding outdoor performance, Don't get me wrong, the Vector does very well from what I've seen, but compared to an LM4 or an AEG it's just not as consistent at long range. If you play a lot of CQB you'll LOVE the Vector, but if it were me I would go with an AKG or LM4.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 12:51 PM

I definitely prefer field and play more of it. I'll probably get the AK, but the LM4 seems like it would be good likewise. Depends what AirsoftGI has in stock come next month.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 02:14 PM

View PostPhillip, on 23 February 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

I definitely prefer field and play more of it. I'll probably get the AK, but the LM4 seems like it would be good likewise. Depends what AirsoftGI has in stock come next month.
For sure. I have not had first hand experience with the AKG, so I can't really speak for it's performance, but from what I've heard around the internet it's on par and maybe even better than the LM4 out of the box. Since both are very popular platforms it should be easy to find external parts to load onto it either way. Internally I know there's a good selection now for the LM4, some of which I have used with great success, but I have yet to see much for the AKG. I'm sure there will be more parts available for the AKG soon, since the LM4 took almost a whole year to get decent aftermarket part support rolling.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 03:13 PM

The Kriss is overly complicated by the desire the internals have the same motion at the .45ACP version where the bolt recoils back and down to reduce recoil and muzzle rise.

I no longer own mine, just nothing there for me.  The LM4 on the other hand is now a pretty mature product and you should be able to modify it internally to cut the muzzle velocity to under 350fps for indoor play.  The RM4 has none of the problems a gas gun has and has some slight recoil too.  With the magazine selector set at 30 you'll be required to change magazines frequently too.

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 01:28 PM

Before I bought my MP7 I shot the KRISS a few times before making my decision.  The gun just seems overly complicated for me.  The separate selector and safety is confusing when you first pick it up.  The accuracy isn't what I expected.  But what was the deal-breaker for me is the trigger.  The damn thing is so hard to pull compared to other guns.  Perhaps it was the particular gun I shot, but it was very heavy compared to my LM4, MP7, and M9.  Heavier than an AEG trigger.  It just bugged me too much to own the gun.

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 09:43 PM

View Postkwaispro727, on 01 March 2014 - 01:28 PM, said:

Before I bought my MP7 I shot the KRISS a few times before making my decision.  The gun just seems overly complicated for me.  The separate selector and safety is confusing when you first pick it up.  The accuracy isn't what I expected.  But what was the deal-breaker for me is the trigger.  The damn thing is so hard to pull compared to other guns.  Perhaps it was the particular gun I shot, but it was very heavy compared to my LM4, MP7, and M9.  Heavier than an AEG trigger.  It just bugged me too much to own the gun.
I had very similar feelings. Both KRISS Vectors I've seen in my team had very stiff triggers, to the point where I was constantly questioning "is the safety on? Oh, nope, it's just a REALLY heavy trigger..." So to support what you've mentioned, I would agree that it's probably the hardest trigger pull I've ever seen, save for the real steel Mosin Nagant my buddy has.




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