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**BEST UPGRADES** $100 or less

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#1 Luke Jenkins

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 10:27 PM

I just bought a KWA SR10 and love the out of box performance.  What are some good upgrades I could do to the gun for another $100 or so?  Im fairly new to airsoft and would like to hear everyones opinions.  

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:04 PM

Well that really depends on what you are looking to get out of it... The first things I like to do is a motor and spring upgrade... What is nice about the motor is its a very easy install and easy to swap out and put into another gun... The spring depends on where you play and what your FPS limits are at your local fields... I would suggest you go and play with it stock and make list of what you like and dislike... If you want better rate of fire and better trigger response, then go with a new motor... If you'd like to get more consistent range then maybe you go with one of the hopup mods or upgrade the inner barrel... One thing you should do is stitch over to deans connectors... There was a post today about it so read it and read other stuff and learn (link posted below)... A good investment if your just starting out is a good charger... That is an over looked "upgrade" that people don't ever think of, and it will help protect you investment into batteries... A good charger is worth its weight in gold...

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 03:45 PM

Welcome Luke.
G&G flat hop mod, eraser nub. 7$
Small 11.1 lipo. 15 to 25$
Madbull 455mm 6.03 barrel. 30$
Small barrel extension. 25$
Deans. 5$
I have a SR10 about 6 weeks old, shoots 415fps w/.20s hop up off (no mods except G&G green flat hop). Like iWar said, check feild fps limits where you play.  Cant make a DMR for 100$ so I would stay out of the gear box for now.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 02:01 PM

Peak charger, is a must! This is mandatory for safety reasons.  As for the $100 without opening the gearbox (void Warranty) I use a KM Head Barrel (pro shop) Great barrel, around $100 you should start with a budget barrel & aftermarket motor, you can find them starting around $30 each.

These are good upgrades for a beginner, and simple if you're uncomfortable with doing them, It can be done in under 5 minutes in a local airsoft store, so you shouldn't have to leave the gun. Talk them out of that.

Upgrading to Deans connectors is a good choice, but there are still "Electric Bottlenecks" in the system ex. Spade connectors in the buffer tube & motor, that calamity of a fuse holder, those should be addressed. All my sons AEGs are hard wired with the exception of Deans connectors on the battery. The trigger switch is solid, That can be your next upgrade project, when the warranty expires.

IMO, if you're not having problems with the KWA bucking leave it alone. Its a great bucking!
If you decide NOT to upgrade the barrel, clean the barrel & bucking that came with the SR10 (search the forums)

As stated above, no need to go into the gear box. M4 RIS upgraded Guarder SP130 spring.  411FPS w/ .25s = 460FPS w/.20s +-
The Joules is high 1.96. Thats a concern at the field my son plays at.
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Posted 24 February 2014 - 07:44 PM

I would go pretty basic:

Deans - it will increase ROF slightly

Shimming - Shimming bevel to pinion is the best way. This will quiet the gun but is very time consuming and difficult to learn if it's your first time

R-Hop - Increase range, accuracy, little fps increase

You could stretch out the piston head oring, teflon tape the cylinder head and air nozzle which will give you a very good air seal equating to more consistency.  I would keep the motor stock unless you are looking for an extreme RPS or FPS build.  You will get around 20 rps with a 11.1V lipo so I don't see the point of changing the motor unless you are looking to increase that.  Also, the stock motor can handle up to a m130 spring.  The stock barrel is also a very nice quality.  The only reason I would change it if I was changing the barrel length to a longer one.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:04 PM

How does changing a stock motor increase FPS? Barrel & Motor are good upgrades for a beginner. KWA makes a good barrel, and motor. Along with a stock gun as stated in his original post. Part of a lot hobbies is to work on the model, gun, camera, slot car, RC plane etc with upgrades. Suggesting a beginner to open a warranted gear box now & stretching O rings, Why not later on?  

I dont concerter shimming bevel to pinion a good upgrade for a beginner, its more a maintenance thing.
A HT motor wil not give  "extreme RPS" It will be a  major improvement in semi & slight increase in ROF, this is my choice. Not a $5 pack of shims.

Come to think of it,  Luke, if you would like to try a HT motor ill give you a brand new budget HT, very efficient motor. If you like it, its yours. In return of an honest option of the motor. Post your thoughts for others.

If you return, and would like to review it. Reply to this thread. Its a very efficient, well built motor Pics page 5 post #83  If not it will join a lot of new homeless motors without pinions, springs & brushes :(
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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:12 PM

Lol...I never said changing the motor would increase FPS.  I was saying if this guy was going for a high fps build, he would obviously have to use a higher power spring which would require an upgraded motor.  Again you are putting words into my mouth.  Also, a HT motor is the start of a high RPS build.  Obviously just a HT motor won't get you where you want to be with high speed builds.

You don't consider improving your gun upgrading? Shimming will increase longevity which is upgrading your gun.

Edited by iwamofo, 24 February 2014 - 09:13 PM.


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:35 PM

An extreme RPS or FPS build you wouldn't change the motor. What about cycling & efficiency, Thats not an upgrade?

I do consider shimming, upgrading. Not for a beginner with a GB under warranty. Read the post, i stated he should do it later on.

You go "pretty basic" by recommending: Opening the GB, Shimming bevel to pinion, stretching a O ring & teflon between the cylinder head and air nozzle.

I think thats it for this forum.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:41 PM

uhmmm I don't understand how you think you wouldn't change the motor, please explain.  Kwa motors pull around m130 springs so if you wanted more fps, say around 550 you would have to upgrade the motor.  High speed builds also work better with HT motors and high speed gears.

Also, I don't understand why you are trying to pick an argument.  It's pretty childish trying to nit pick my post by pointing out the thing I said about the pretty basic mods.

Edited by iwamofo, 24 February 2014 - 09:44 PM.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 05:06 AM

Ok gentlemen lets keep this discussion friendly.  It's just all a matter of opinion so let's try not to rip each other into pieces. :)

As for simple beginner upgrades I would go with a good barrel to start but more importantly deans, some good lipo batteries and a smart charger is a must for any beginner.

Just my opinion............................ :innocent:

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 05:51 AM

I would definitely get a mad bull 6.03! Depending on which length you want, a suppressor might not be needed. Another thing to consider would be some accessories for your RIS. They can greatly help your play style. Also, a spare 2gx bucking might be something to consider. I have a few on hand at all times. I wouldn't worry to much about upgrading the internals except for the barrel. Finally, this is just my opinion, but i would get a holo sight for mine. Looks cool, and its useful! :thumbsup:

Edited by Rain Man, 27 February 2014 - 06:21 AM.






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