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#1 turtletodd

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:54 AM

Mods please move this thread if needed as I did not see an intro/newbie section.

So 1st of all this is the first airsoft I have ever held. I knew nothing of airsoft before I went to a local shop. I bought an ATP Auto from my local dealer for my son to shoot when I go target shooting. So that being said it will get used very seldom. I bought the gun, a few cans of green gas and a 5000 bag of .30 bb’s for about $170.

So we took the gun out last weekend and I was impressed with how tight the pattern is. I ended up using it more than my gun. One thing I noticed is the rear sights move very easily. Like after a few mags were run through they were sliding all over, a few mm left or right.  Is there something I need to tighten to fix this? I did not see anything obvious.

Also, I know this is not a true replica of a M17 but it is really close.  Is there another KWA, or other, outer barrel that I can fit on the gun that does not stick out past the slide so much? Like the pictures on the gun’s manuals and like I see online. If I swap them will it void any warranty? My son & I both commented on how it looks out of place.

My local dealer also tried to sell me a propane adapter. I have read that propane should not be used. Is this true? We have not finished our 1st bottle of green gas so we have a ways to go before I need to do anything but I have 4 Colman propane tanks that are laying around. And it would be nice to use those up.
Also on fill up using the green gas it did not start spilling out after holding it in no matter how long I held it. Am I missing something? How can I make sure it is full?

Since it will not be used much, Is there anything different I need to do to store the gun between uses? I remember from my paintball days all the damn O rings drying out… Do I need to keep some gas in the mag for storage?

Thanks

Edited by gcw360, 25 January 2014 - 09:08 AM.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 02:36 PM

Welcome! I don't own the ATP, i do have a few KWA pistols, and the rear sight does not move on any of them. I replaced the front sight on my USP and needed to use a "Spring Tools" punch to remove it.
You may have to return it or send it to KWA.

.30 seems heavy .25s work nice, this is a personal preference. There are precautions you should take to store the pistol.
I just leave some green gas in it, i know i should do more :( Maybe someone would jump in.

As for the propane, i never used it. I don't like the smell, i hear some are odorless. besides its hard to find in NYC, i buy GG when i take my son airsofting sorry, can't help with that question.

Filling the mag, i never hear it "spilling out" i do a few short bursts & its full

FWIW, it looks like you used invisible ink in your post. Or its on my end.

Edited by tales, 23 January 2014 - 02:43 PM.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 06:03 AM

Tales,
Thanks for the heads up. I saw that the font was black and I tried to fix it but no luck. There is a huge delay on this site when I was posting no matter what browser I used so I copy and pasted and that's what happened. Should I stop using .30's?

To recap my questions above,
Can I get a shorter outer barrel to match the slide length better? Where? Will that void warranty?

Does propane adversely effect the gun?

What do I need to do to store the gun for a few weeks to month at a time?

My rear sights move left to right freely about 2-3mm. is there something I can tighten?

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 07:18 AM

Not at all. Maybe the .30s are a better choice for target shooting with your son.
The rear sight shouldn't move. Call KWA (Number is above) and talk to them about the sight.
Is the gun under warranty?

Now that your questions can be seen. Hopefully someone will reply.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:29 PM

Tales,

The gun is under warranty. I will give a call to them and ask about the sight.


I see your profile shows Brooklyn & set building. I have a friend doing the same thing in Brooklyn. He sent me some cool pics when he was working the new Spiderman flick.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:57 PM

"London calling" the 2nd spiderman? i also worked on that set, good chance i know your friend. $600 million  to recreate Times Square.

Did he work on Noah? It was mostly the same crew:  http://www.noahmovie.com/trailer
The ark we built was huge!
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You have a PM.

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 09:17 AM

View Postturtletodd, on 24 January 2014 - 12:29 PM, said:

Tales,

The gun is under warranty. I will give a call to them and ask about the sight.


I see your profile shows Brooklyn & set building. I have a friend doing the same thing in Brooklyn. He sent me some cool pics when he was working the new Spiderman flick.
Hi TT welcome to the KWA Forums.  Propane voids the warranty and requires that the proper amount of silicone be added when using it.  Note: most people over oil the gun when using propane+silicone which causes dirt to collect in the gun and can cause the bucking to swell which ruins the bucking.  I know some people who use propane with no oil at all and who service the gun by cleaning and lubing after each game with good results.  Please understand that I can not recommend propane because of my position on these Forums.

Regarding the rear sight.  I have two easy fixes, one is very permanent while the other is semi-permanent.
  • Perm - A drop of super glue, NOTE: IF YOU DON'T GET THE SIGHT CENTERED IN TIME YOU ARE BASICALLY SOL. I have used this approach on my ATP with good results
  • Semi - Blue Loctite/thead locker.  I have used this approach also and it worked well for me.  It also allows for removal of the rear sight if needed. apply wet, slide on, allow to dry.
Regarding gun storage, be sure the slide is forward and the hammer is dropped.  Add a bit of GG to the mag to keep the seals from drying (another reason GG is good) and you should be fine.

Regarding the barrel, do you have a plastic orange tip or is it metal?  I'm assuming the new ATPs have a longer outer metal barrel.  The older ATPs had a shorter metal outer with a plastic tip that was added.  This tip has been removed buy many owners and while I can not recommend this it would be appropriate for say...a photo op or collectible display.  I would check with KWA to see if they have any of the older generation 1 ATP barrels in the Pro Shop or in the bone yard.

Hope this helps.

PS - If you have issues with the text color again, go to the tool bar, highlight the text, select text color, and click "automatic".




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