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#41 Hibiki

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Posted 04 December 2009 - 03:53 PM

This was way at the beginning of the thread, but I might as well:

View PostBaron, on 30 July 2009 - 12:45 PM, said:

What's with all the damn M4's?!?!?!?!?!?! Would be a lot better if they made a GBB model of a gun like the P90, or FN2000, or the L85A2 AFV(tiny little L85A2, horrible as an AEG because of the battery limits). Who else would sooner buy a GBB P90 than a GBB M4?

I would buy a GBB P90 or L85A2 in a heart beat!
That is, if I hadn't spent all my money on an MP7 already XD

#42 MagpuLoverBoy

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Posted 04 December 2009 - 06:00 PM

View Postgcw360, on 04 December 2009 - 03:27 PM, said:

As far as I know, about the only thing that works ok in the cold is a remote N2 (compressed air) tank.  Like in paintball.  The problem there is that it is bulky, the tanks cost a lot and it takes away from the realism.
maybe a copy or redesign of the WE CO2 mags?? i have plenty of those and from what i hear there better than green gas and propane.

#43 Xaelk

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Posted 06 December 2009 - 12:14 PM

View PostMagpuLoverBoy, on 04 December 2009 - 06:00 PM, said:

maybe a copy or redesign of the WE CO2 mags?? i have plenty of those and from what i hear there better than green gas and propane.

i would hope for some sort of chamber in the gun itself that hides and holds a 12 gram co2 cartridge, to cut costs on the mags. if a gas efficient gun using something like that with cheap mags came out, i would be all over it.

#44 MagpuLoverBoy

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Posted 07 December 2009 - 11:47 AM

View PostXaelk, on 06 December 2009 - 12:14 PM, said:

i would hope for some sort of chamber in the gun itself that hides and holds a 12 gram co2 cartridge, to cut costs on the mags. if a gas efficient gun using something like that with cheap mags came out, i would be all over it.
like u said or make it like something to where we can use our existing high caps or mid caps that we already own!:D :thumbsup:  :icecream:  :dribble:

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 12:09 PM

View PostMagpuLoverBoy, on 07 December 2009 - 11:47 AM, said:

like u said or make it like something to where we can use our existing high caps or mid caps that we already own!:D :thumbsup:  :icecream:  :dribble:

The only problem i see with that is i dont know if youd have enough gas (wherever it would be stored) to go through a 300rnd highcap in one fill or whatever. Things id like to see in a KWA GBBR (in general)

-externals similar or equal to the SR series
-NS2 system (duh lol)
-realistic loading/reloading (most GBBR have these, ie. functioning parts)
-if its an armalite varient, a working forward assist like the WE could be cool.
-maybe a way to adjust fps? (aftermarket or otherwise)
-above all...reliability that KWA is known for!  :thumbsup:

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 03:12 PM

View Postazzauzi, on 24 December 2009 - 12:09 PM, said:

The only problem i see with that is i dont know if youd have enough gas (wherever it would be stored) to go through a 300rnd highcap in one fill or whatever. Things id like to see in a KWA GBBR (in general)

-externals similar or equal to the SR series
-NS2 system (duh lol)
-realistic loading/reloading (most GBBR have these, ie. functioning parts)
-if its an armalite varient, a working forward assist like the WE could be cool.
-maybe a way to adjust fps? (aftermarket or otherwise)
-above all...reliability that KWA is known for! :thumbsup:
Maybe there will be something like that at the Shot Show???:thumbsup:

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 09:15 PM

View Postazzauzi, on 24 December 2009 - 12:09 PM, said:

-NS2 system (duh lol)

Nah, the "NS2" system is limited to pistol applications. Anything larger than a pistol would require the use of our "FV" (Force Velocity) Engine which is currently in the MP7.

#48 MagpuLoverBoy

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 02:17 PM

View Postazzauzi, on 24 December 2009 - 12:09 PM, said:

The only problem i see with that is i dont know if youd have enough gas (wherever it would be stored) to go through a 300rnd highcap in one fill or whatever.\

Maybe a CO2 tank that can fit in the buffer tube? it sounds solid to me.

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 12:27 PM

View PostMagpuLoverBoy, on 25 December 2009 - 02:17 PM, said:

Maybe a CO2 tank that can fit in the buffer tube? it sounds solid to me.

That won't work.  The buffer tube house the recoil spring and the Buffer.  This is how most GBBr simulate recoil on real AR.

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 11:49 AM

Whenever I think of a GBBR, I think of spending excessive amounts of money on mags.... Like the WE scar... 48 bucks a mag  :thumbsdown:   Also I think of getting owned lol cause they are never able to be accurate like AEGs with their stupid hop up systems that are terrible like the WE Scar which is a rubber band with a metal ball.....  If kwa can overcome these problems, THEN YAY!!!! I would grab one the second one comes out!!!

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 12:16 PM

View PostWintersx866, on 27 December 2009 - 11:49 AM, said:

Whenever I think of a GBBR, I think of spending excessive amounts of money on mags.... Like the WE scar... 48 bucks a mag :thumbsdown: Also I think of getting owned lol cause they are never able to be accurate like AEGs with their stupid hop up systems that are terrible like the WE Scar which is a rubber band with a metal ball..... If kwa can overcome these problems, THEN YAY!!!! I would grab one the second one comes out!!!
Well of course you are frustrated...it's a WE! :gun:

#52 BigBabyMoses06

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 09:36 AM

What happens if you remove the buffer spring/tube and replaced it with a small reusable co2 or N2 tank over a LE stock or something? Would it loose all its recoil, or would it be more extreme?

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 10:06 AM

View PostBigBabyMoses06, on 28 December 2009 - 09:36 AM, said:

What happens if you remove the buffer spring/tube and replaced it with a small reusable co2 or N2 tank over a LE stock or something? Would it loose all its recoil, or would it be more extreme?

<_<  speechless.

#54 MagpuLoverBoy

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 10:09 AM

View PostShogo, on 28 December 2009 - 10:06 AM, said:

<_<  speechless.
i think its a good question, i dont know what happens, some of us just dont know.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 10:14 AM

If you read a few post above... the answer is already there.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 10:57 AM

Relax. Thats what my question was about.  :thumbsup:
I dont understand how it all works. When I hear spring, that to me sounds like something to weaken the recoil like how i think a real gun would. So in my thinking, removing it would mean more recoil.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 03:48 PM

View PostBigBabyMoses06, on 28 December 2009 - 10:57 AM, said:

Relax. Thats what my question was about.  :thumbsup:
I dont understand how it all works. When I hear spring, that to me sounds like something to weaken the recoil like how i think a real gun would. So in my thinking, removing it would mean more recoil.
As in RS, the buffer spring isn't there to reduce recoil. It returns the bolt carrier to the closed position, completing the action of the gun.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 05:33 PM

View Poststriker6, on 28 December 2009 - 03:48 PM, said:

As in RS, the buffer spring isn't there to reduce recoil. It returns the bolt carrier to the closed position, completing the action of the gun.
thanks for clearing that up!   :D

Edited by MagpuLoverBoy, 28 December 2009 - 05:33 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2010 - 02:19 PM

Better than a WE or WA GBB M4? This would be tempting to buy...

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 05:20 AM

This all sounds amazingly bad a** but was curious if the roomers around here at my local airsoft shops are true about it only being available to the military and law enforcement? If not are you able to come to the Kwa location and purchase a gun on site?

Edited by eXiLe., 29 January 2010 - 05:21 AM.





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