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KWA USP series vs. m1911 MK series vs. M11a1 vs. M9 PTP

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#1 nick42294

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:51 AM

I have never owned a GBB pistol and am looking for a secondary weapon, and I know KWA makes some of the best GBB products. I have narrowed down my choices to the following 4 in no particualr order:
  • USP series (preferably the regular one)

  • m1911 MK series (I like the Mk2 the best)

  • M9 Tactical PTP

  • M11a1 (Higher mag capacity, full auto option, mock [barrel extension] looks awesome on it)
I would like to hear some opinions and experiences if you have any of the aforementioned products. Thank you in advance!

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 01:13 PM

For a secondary weapon you'll be good with any of those, though I'd personally say skip the M11a1. The M9 is a great gun, however I don't like the ergonomics of the M9, so that comes down to your handling preference. The USP's are all very nice as well, keep in mind though that they are rather large in all dimensions, so if that's okay with you then you're set. I own the MKII myself and I couldn't be happier. It shoots straight, it shoots fast, it has VERY good gas efficiency, the FPS is right around 330 depending on your location(weather, elevation etc.). Honestly you can't really go wrong with any of them, but like I said I think the M11a1 may not be the best choice since it's really just overkill. I may get one eventually but I don't see a practical place for it in my gaming use.

Perhaps a good question would be: What is your primary? What is your game playing style? Do you strive for realism or 'speedball' type games?

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:07 PM

The USP is an HK licensed product and KWA no longer has the license.  The full size USP is a monster.  The M1911 has all the pros and cons of the real M1911 including being single action and low ammunition capacity.  The M9 is a very good Beretta reproduction and as large of the USP.  I have all of these in cartridge guns and the last two also in airsoft.  Of the last two the M9 remains my favorite.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:56 PM

Thank you both for replying.

I own the CO2 version of the H&K USP, so i don't mind the size and I like the ergonomics of the USP.

General Pickle: Primary is a H&K G&G MP5A5 RIS w/ retractable stock (fully licensed) for indoor and ICS SIG 551 LB (again, licensed) for outdoors. I play very aggressively. I don't care too much for milsim. I only like the M11a1 because the mock [barrel extension] on it would look awesome and it has full auto.

Chuck S.: I believe the m1911 mk series just came out with a double stack mag so mag capacity is a little better. I like the USP series and the MK series.

Question. Of the USP, MK series, and M9, do all have pretty decent recoil?
And did they discontinue the Tan Mk2?

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:35 PM

I'm not sure about the Tan MKII, which is the one I have. The recoil will totally depend on your weather and elevation, but from what I've seen the M9 was the fastest action, though I couldn't tell much of any difference between recoil. I ran them all on propane so results may be different with green gas.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:28 AM

Never liked the USP series. Both airsoft and real steel. Grip was not my style, never got used to the magazine release... I could go on and on.

I own a MK II 1911 and like it so far. The double stack mag will definitely help in getting more shots downrange faster, and gives you some breathing room when you cringe if your 13 round magazine is almost done or not. The recoil isn't as powerful as the M9 PTP though, nonetheless, great pistol

I used to own an M11a1 NS2 model, loved that as well... great spray and pray full auto gun, with lots of rounds to dump downrange REALLY quickly. Just make sure your bolt is locked back when inserting and releasing magazines.

AND the M9 PTP. My first airsoft gun, my first KWA.... and my first love. I've had my M9 PTP longer than any of my other airsoft guns, love the grip, the capacity of the magazine, the kick, the gas efficiency, the accuracy, and the TRIGGER. The M9 PTP has one of the smoothest triggers in all of airsoft and a clean break when in single action.... I'd recommend any of KWA's airsoft guns, but the M9 is certainly my favorite.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 05:30 PM

I own the M9 and I love it.  It has a decent kick to it, and like outlaw mentioned, the trigger is perfect.  I also like how the safety de-cocks it like the real thing, as well as how the safety just disengages the mechanism, rather than not allowing the trigger to be pulled at all like your standard safety (also, like the real thing).  But, have you looked into the M93R?  I bring this up because you mentioned the m11.  The M93R is basically an M9, with a lil grip on the front (it folds out of the way), and also 3 round burst/full auto.  I would have bought it instead of my M9 PTP, but I like hard shell holsters so I got the regular M9.  If you are in need of a good holster and you like the hard ones check out G-code.  They take a few weeks to come but they're definitely worth it.  They came up with this great thing called the RTI wheel (allows you to transfer the holster to different platforms very quickly), and they have all kinds of different mounts, belt, drop-leg, molle, everything.  I believe they also have versions that can accommodate flashlights for certain guns.  Overall, I like them over the serpa holsters and basically any hard shell one.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 09:10 PM

We have the USP compact, had to change the front sight, so now it fits in the holster. Feels funny, not much smaller then the 1911.
Wide Mags, Good sidearm,
Now with 3 - 21rd Mags, the 1911 MKII is back in service, and its Great!

Edited by tales, 17 May 2013 - 09:15 PM.


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 04:02 PM

Thanks for the help guys. I still haven't decided.. I actually have an opportunity to trade my G&G SIG 552 wit a few small issues to a guy for TWO M11A1's. One brand new, the other used. A total of 3 mags. Not sure if I should do it.

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 05:42 PM

The 1911 is a great gun. Kinda hard to find mags. My son lost a 21rd mag, that left me with two. I sold them, and bought him the M9
Great gun.

Love The 1911MKII, but the Mag release button is easy to press by mistake & out comes the mag. Someone said to file it down.
Or i could buy another gun. Glad i did. KWA M9

M9 mag release is much harder to press by accident.

Edited by tales, 27 June 2013 - 05:43 PM.






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