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#1 I Am Infidel

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:13 PM

I'm looking for an easy to install drop in (meaning without modification) sling attachment point that sits behind the upper receiver much like the Magpul ASAP.
I very often switch shoulders and hands when moving around a corner and with the OEM attachment point it doesn't work well for me. I'm currently using the magpul MS2.
From what I heard from a comment on Akira's asap video that the PTS asap was a drop in but does anyone know for sure? Maybe if anyone knows an alternative for using the gun ambidextrously with a sling please let me know what works.
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Edited by I Am Infidel, 25 March 2013 - 03:03 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 03:52 PM

PTS is releasing a KWA LM4 ASAP, not sure if its out yet though.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 05:41 PM

I'm about to install the tapco mount tomorrow I will post results.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 06:08 PM

For now you can take some paracord and loop it between the two sling points on the end plate adapter on the lm4. Then attach your ms2 to the paracord.

The tapco would need to be nodded..and also the tapco sits kind of low and with a sling attached it'll rub in your hand while holding the grip.



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 08:23 PM

 BoobieM4H, on 25 March 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

For now you can take some paracord and loop it between the two sling points on the end plate adapter on the lm4. Then attach your ms2 to the paracord.

The tapco would need to be nodded..and also the tapco sits kind of low and with a sling attached it'll rub in your hand while holding the grip.



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That is a great idea for a temporary fix, I'm currently checking out some sling configurations that both work well using it ambidextrously and also holding it snug on my back comfortably. Ill probably get the PTS version once i find out more about it. Thanks.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:13 AM

The standard LM4 receiver end plate with the holes on both sides will take an "HK hook" or several other styles.

All slings suck.  Single point slings, like it seems you're referring to, suck the most.  They do look kool posturing on the range for your team or class photo though.  :)

Here's a couple of techniques that work very well in the real world.  Two point mount.  No "ambidextrous" attachment needed at either the butt stock or handguard.  Note front attachment is at rear of handguard so you'll need a mount there.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:25 AM

OMG..STFU WITH YOUR BS..NO ONE CARES!

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:48 AM

 BoobieM4H, on 26 March 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

OMG..STFU WITH YOUR BS..NO ONE CARES!

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Lol.  To each their own

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:03 AM

 okay47, on 26 March 2013 - 09:48 AM, said:

Lol.  To each their own
Reason why im not on here as much anymore..like my ideas are useless..and so are others..like someone said before..get off your high horse ..or fall off of it more like it..

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:31 AM

lol, meant no disrespect man just thought it was funny that you called out Chuck's standard commentary

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 12:33 PM

 okay47, on 26 March 2013 - 10:31 AM, said:

lol, meant no disrespect man just thought it was funny that you called out Chuck's standard commentary
No offense taken from you bro ..just tired of him always coming on here telling us his bs..some of it is stuff already posted somewhere else in the forums..and most of it is just bs..if a guy wants to run a 1pt sling..cause that's what he is comfortable with and does not want to be wrapped up in a 2pt sling "gimmick" then by all means run that 1pt sling. If you wanna run a ready mag on your gun..cause you want to regardless of the added weight ..then go ahead..you ain't wrong for doing it..and we all know our bb guns ain't real..so stop with the rs crap..who cares! This is Airsoft!  we all shoot each other..and don't die from it..at the end of the day it's all fun..and much respect to those doing the real thing ..sorry for the rant..but I've had enough..mods..if you feel like giving me the boot from this forum I will understand..and if not..thanks for letting speak my mind

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:25 PM

Boobie- I'll give a +1 to that. My AEGs look nothing like my RS war machines. My LM4 on the other hand does, but I almost never skirmish with it. Airsoft is a totally different animal than war. Almost everyone I know that does both has very different rigs. I find it very amusing when people do "impressions" of real units. They always have a lot of unnecessary gear that they have no clue why they have it, but so and so carries it. Training is different than airsofting. Airsoft is all about fun, hanging with friends, and maybe getting a little competitive.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:58 PM

+1 the only thing I have found them useful for is weapons manipulations. Like its raining and no ammo is available so I can do that. Otherwise it's a fun game that is all about personal preference

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:00 PM

Geez, Boobie!  Forget to take you medicine today?!  :)

You and I may do things differently (I guess that's a given!).

I'm not pointing out The Way but offering what works in my experiences.  You can listen (read) if you want.  I tend to state my opinions as facts.  If you want to lug around a Redi-Mag (sic) go for it, but it gets very heavy after a while especially since the LM4 magazines don't get any lighter in use.  Just keep that in mind.  Same for a single point sling.  Just wear a cup and plan to keep at least one hand on it if you have to run with it slung.  .

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:59 PM

The problem that I have with your posts and I imagine Boobie as well is the way they're typed. Stating your opinion and trying to steer someone toward your ideas is fine, though most of your posts come across like you believe you're a God and speaking to little children. I'm not saying that's your intent, though that's the feeling I get whenever I used to read them. I admit that whenever I see your avatar or username I usually just skip over the post and read the one after it because of this. The unfortunate thing is that I don't doubt that you have a vast amount of knowledge with the real steel world and probably a lot of good advice, though it's probably not being delivered as intended.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:02 PM

So, trying to get back on topic...

Answering OP's question about Magpul PTS ASAP being drop in. No, the PTS ASAP will sit low and will still need to be modified to fit the same way as the real steel ASAP. The only difference is that the PTS version is a little wider.

If you're looking for something that doesn't require disassembly, they make some sling mounts that clamp onto the receiver extension. I don't remember who makes them, but if I come across them I'll update in this thread.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:51 PM

 WTF?Shane, on 26 March 2013 - 06:02 PM, said:

So, trying to get back on topic...

Answering OP's question about Magpul PTS ASAP being drop in. No, the PTS ASAP will sit low and will still need to be modified to fit the same way as the real steel ASAP. The only difference is that the PTS version is a little wider.

If you're looking for something that doesn't require disassembly, they make some sling mounts that clamp onto the receiver extension. I don't remember who makes them, but if I come across them I'll update in this thread.
That sounds interesting, keep an eye out for it and let me know thanks.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:58 PM

 Chuck S, on 26 March 2013 - 03:13 AM, said:

The standard LM4 receiver end plate with the holes on both sides will take an "HK hook" or several other styles.

All slings suck.  Single point slings, like it seems you're referring to, suck the most.  They do look kool posturing on the range for your team or class photo though.  :)

Here's a couple of techniques that work very well in the real world.  Two point mount.  No "ambidextrous" attachment needed at either the butt stock or handguard.  Note front attachment is at rear of handguard so you'll need a mount there.

-- Chuck
I find that technique being too slow for me. I would rather switch shoulders without any kind of adjustment.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:13 PM

 BeachEMT, on 26 March 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Boobie- I'll give a +1 to that. My AEGs look nothing like my RS war machines. My LM4 on the other hand does, but I almost never skirmish with it. Airsoft is a totally different animal than war. Almost everyone I know that does both has very different rigs. I find it very amusing when people do "impressions" of real units. They always have a lot of unnecessary gear that they have no clue why they have it, but so and so carries it. Training is different than airsofting. Airsoft is all about fun, hanging with friends, and maybe getting a little competitive.
Not only that wearing unnecessary gear is useless, they don't feel BBs hit them resulting in frustration for other players. I wish that could end.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:09 PM

I guess im crazy and need pills..whatever..I stand by what I said..I take nothing back.


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