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Can my KWA Kriss Vector Use Propane or Does it Ruin the Internals?


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#21 BENboBEN

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 12:49 PM

View PostYouJustGotMyVector, on 20 March 2013 - 06:46 AM, said:

So what is a good brand of green gas? Also, what about the Madbull Propane Adapter v2? Would that be good or bad?
If it's made of metal DO NOT use it, use the Airsoft Innovations plastic one. Metal ones destroy your magazines in an amazingly fast time. Also, Worthington is the best propane (get it at Walmart), Coleman is junk, avoid it.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:33 AM

View PostBENboBEN, on 20 March 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

If it's made of metal DO NOT use it, use the Airsoft Innovations plastic one. Metal ones destroy your magazines in an amazingly fast time. Also, Worthington is the best propane (get it at Walmart), Coleman is junk, avoid it.

Not necessarily destroy the magazine, but rather loose the fill valve o-ring faster. I've used both, fill valve o-rings definitely like the plastic AI adapter more; I suspect it's because of their conducting / insulating properties respectively.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:36 AM

Ben, these guys? http://www.lowes.com...3877-303978_0__


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:50 AM

Green gas all seems to be the same canisters with different labels on the outside.  At least the cans with the metal fill valves.  Buy it by price.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:46 PM

View PostR_King91303, on 21 March 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

Yup, I get them in a 4-pack for $9 at Walmart. I hate that store to death, but that is the best propane and price. I dont think mine say "Pro Grade" though, I dont know if that would make it different or if its just a marketing sticker.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:43 PM

View PostChuck S, on 21 March 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:

Green gas all seems to be the same canisters with different labels on the outside.  At least the cans with the metal fill valves.  Buy it by price.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:45 PM

View PostBENboBEN, on 21 March 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

Yup, I get them in a 4-pack for $9 at Walmart. I hate that store to death, but that is the best propane and price. I dont think mine say "Pro Grade" though, I dont know if that would make it different or if its just a marketing sticker.
"Pro-Grade" is nothing more than marketing hype.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:35 AM

View Postgcw360, on 21 March 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

"Pro-Grade" is nothing more than marketing hype.
Thats what I'm thinking. However, Im pretty sure mine at home, i'll confirm tonight, dont say pro grade, so Im concerned that the "Pro Grade" might have different or more additaves. The additaves in Coleman are what make it suck. Worthington, I cant explain how, just feels cleaner, there's no plume of gas or greasy residue i guess. But it just feels more crisp in the gun.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:42 AM

As a side note, bought some 134a gas, chrono'ed, I was getting ~320 FPS.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:46 PM

Where do you get 134A

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:28 PM

View PostYouJustGotMyVector, on 22 March 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

Where do you get 134A

134a is just air Duster. I picked this up the other day: http://www.target.co...c_qi_detaillink

134a is also auto A/C refrigerant:
http://www.autozone....ier=244738_0_0_

In either case you will need a duster gas adapter, however with the auto 134a option you need to custom build an adapter for the duster adapter. I believe the duster adapter still comes with the AI propane adapter.


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:32 PM

I use Propane in my MK IV 1911 PTP and it works great!

What Green Gas is, is Synthetic Propane with silicone oil added.
I just use a Madbull Propane adapter with the silicone oil port. works great!
Also Propane is about 125PSI and most green gases are about 115PSI so its a little higher pressure but with how the KRISS is build im pretty sure higher pressure wont be an issue.

Hope this helps!

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:57 AM

Propane is basically green gas with silicone oil + a nicer scent

Get a propane adapter (I like the AI one) and use the correct amount of silicone oil in it.
CLEAN YOUR GUN THOROUGHLY

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:51 PM

to hell with green gas and propane! RED GAS FOR LIFE HOME SLICE! Cuz i need ALL the fps!

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:40 AM

It's fine to use propane, but I don't know why KWA doesn't cover propane?

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 08:12 PM

sup guys does anyone heard of the puff dyno green gas ? guy selling it at his store told me it has more power on regular green gas .

to the admin ; is this ok to use ?

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:15 AM

Looks like standard GG in a bigger can.  Should be fine.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 10:21 PM

thanks

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 10:58 AM

After reading this thread, and gaining a little knowledge, (thanks to everyone) I'm considering using Worthington Propane, but my question is more about the silicon to lube the mag internals. Do you recommend a thin silicone lube, or a thicker lube. I have a can of ICS silicon lube spray, and I have to say, even though it is extremely thick it has been the best lube for orings I have ever used. I have had weak orings that I soaked in it for 24-48 hours, and it returned them to being useable and makes other orings more durable. Thoughts?

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 07:57 AM

View PostEcho5, on 04 February 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:

After reading this thread, and gaining a little knowledge, (thanks to everyone) I'm considering using Worthington Propane, but my question is more about the silicon to lube the mag internals. Do you recommend a thin silicone lube, or a thicker lube. I have a can of ICS silicon lube spray, and I have to say, even though it is extremely thick it has been the best lube for orings I have ever used. I have had weak orings that I soaked in it for 24-48 hours, and it returned them to being useable and makes other orings more durable. Thoughts?
What you are probably experiencing with the o-ring is absorption of the silicone into the material.  Spray silicones have thinners in them that can react with some o-rings.  This is also true of the bucking and this will cause the bucking to swell rendering it useless.  DO NOT USE SPRAY SILICONE IN A KWA for this reason.




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