KWA dropping several items?
Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:51 AM
Site updates or dropped items?
Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:59 AM
Posted 17 January 2013 - 04:20 PM
Posted 17 January 2013 - 06:20 PM
Posted 17 January 2013 - 06:52 PM
Posted 18 January 2013 - 06:30 AM
1. Will KWA continue to make, not distribute, make guns in the HK lineup?
2. Will KWA continue to make magazines for the HK lineup?
Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:34 AM
Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:49 PM
Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:55 PM
KWA will make the guns, Umarex will distribute (sell to the retailers) the guns.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:58 PM
That is a yes. KWA is still going to build the HK products they have been making, but now they are going to be sold exclusively as Umarex.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:03 PM
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:23 PM
Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:00 AM
As a dealer, after talking to our new sales rep at Elite Force:
- KWA still makes the guns at their factories, but they are shipped directly to Umarex/Elite Force and never touch KWA's warehouse in California.
- Umarex/Elite Force is the sole supplier (except for middle-level distributors) for H&K branded products beginning right now.
- Several models have been dropped, presumably due to poor sales, which we did experience as a dealer on the dropped models: no more tactical version of USP or USP Compact (with the threads and higher-profile sights), no more USP Match, and no more MK23 USSOCOM (that's the only one I'm upset about - we didn't sell many, but it was an awesome gun!) Also, no more 20rd MP7 mags (that was also a handy feature for players using it as a sidearm and not wanting a long mag poking out). Finally, no more KWA-made G36C hicaps, only ones made by a third-party (saw some at SHOT Show, not all that different than the KWA mag, and it's not hard to get a G36 hicap right anyway...)
So, you will still be able to get the "licensed by Umarex, OEM by KWA" versions of the G36C AEG, USP, USP Compact, HK45, and MP7, probably from the same stores you did before, but those stores will be buying them via Umarex/Elite Force instead of KWA. The guns that your dealer was buying last year were licensed by Umarex, OEM by KWA, just as they are now. The only difference is that they don't come through KWA's facility in the US, and therefore might go through a different QC process before going to you. Prices moved up a bit, but maybe that'll balance out supply and demand and we'll actually be able to keep G36Cs in stock for once!
For what it's worth, the product header the KWA products are under on our price list from Elite Force says "60 days to 1 year warranty", but I'm still not clear on which products have what warranty period. However, KWA's previous warranty was 45 days, so the new warranty period is at least 15 days longer =)
Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:13 AM
Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:36 AM
I bought it, however, thinking it was a KWA. And we know it is. Under the trademarks.
With the different warranty period I suspect there is a different serial number series for those guns sold by KWA.
I suspect the KWA marketed HK models were putting a huge dent in Umarex sales based on my own perceived ideas of the company reputations.
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