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#1 Hitman07

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:27 PM

So I recently got an ATP in a trade and the guy said that before he traded it with me he lubed it up with a little CLP (real gun oil) he said this was the only time he did this. anyway I always use silicon oil for my airsoft guns and i looked on the back of the CLP can as I use it on my real guns and didnt see anything about it harming rubber (orings) so I was just wondering if him applying the CLP once wont be of any real problem?

not that i can do anything about it now but ;) lol

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:27 PM

That really depends on which CLP it is... Froglube is a CLP for real guns but it's formula is actually good for o-rings too. If it was a synthetic/chemical CLP I have no idea, but personally I'd hope it didn't get on the o-rings!

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:02 PM

View PostGeneral Pickle, on 04 April 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

That really depends on which CLP it is... Froglube is a CLP for real guns but it's formula is actually good for o-rings too. If it was a synthetic/chemical CLP I have no idea, but personally I'd hope it didn't get on the o-rings!

It was this stuff

http://www.amazon.co...l/dp/B0050GW73C

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:15 PM

http://www.break-fre...p?catalog=civil

It says its synthetic based...idk...i just hope its fine for the little that he put on

He said he only put it on the lower part of the pistol with the slide removed and some on the top and bottom of the mag

Edited by Hitman07, 04 April 2013 - 09:16 PM.


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:18 PM

From what little searching I did it appears that this product is NOT safe for rubber. If I were you I would disassemble all of the rubber parts that could have been effected and check them for damage, though I think the only really important parts would be the valves in the mags and the o-ring in the upper where the NS2 system is housed. When you pull the feeding nozzle forward to see the o-ring you should be able to see it; if it isn't severely damaged I wouldn't worry, just drop some silicone or other rubber safe lube in there and you should be fine. Hell, if the gun works fine then there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

Edit: For the record, that CLP would indeed be good for the metal parts... but personally I wouldn't take that risk seeing as there's rubber and plastic parts all over airsoft guns.

Edited by General Pickle, 04 April 2013 - 10:19 PM.


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:35 PM

Well I guess that just leaves the oring in the mag. I just sprayed some silicon oil on it. Hopefully everything will be fine

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:55 AM

Have you ever used 'Froglube'? It's a real steel CLP, but it has properties that actually maintain and restore plastic and rubber materials. There's some debate over whether it's ideal for airsoft guns or not but their website states that it's airsoft/paintball/o-ring safe and I've been using it on 3 KWA GBB's for a few months now with great results. What I've noticed is that the residue from propane actually gets dispersed in the lube and drawn away from the important parts, since the formula is made to break down residue such as that, making it easier to clean the internals of the gun. It's some kind of organic/synthetic hybrid with some weird properties; when it gets cold it congeals and stays on the parts, then when it gets warm it liquefies and spreads on the parts. When used on real guns the metal becomes impregnated with the CLP as the heat causes the metal to expand, allowing the CLP to absorb into the metal, so over time and many applications the gun will only get smoother. Anyway, use at your own desire/risk, but I think it would be very beneficial to the restoration and maintenance of any rubber or plastic parts that may have been affected.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:33 PM

Hmm I will have to check it out

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 05:59 AM

We know pure silicone oil is safe for our guns. One brand of commercial CLP (and anything can be bottled and sold as "CLP") may be just fine and anther brand may be extremely harmful.  Frog Lube CLP seems OK so far (the operative words being "so far").

Military specification CLP is a performance specification, not a formula so what works well with cartridge firearms may be harmful  in airsoft applications.

I'm sticking with silicone oil for my airsofts.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:30 PM

Try Murder Oil

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:33 PM

Hmmm, and who would be selling that Boobie?

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:46 PM

I have been experimenting with froglube in both my GBB and AEG's with very good results.  I even froglubed my Vector and now the action is smooth as butter.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:13 PM

View Postgcw360, on 09 April 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

Hmmm, and who would be selling that Boobie?
Ill post links up in about a week..it'll be for sale then..right now its being bottled and labeled

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:18 PM

View PostBoobieM4H, on 09 April 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

Ill post links up in about a week..it'll be for sale then..right now its being bottled and labeled

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Just please don't sell here, ok?

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:41 PM

View Postgcw360, on 09 April 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

Just please don't sell here, ok?
Sure thing boss..I knew this was coming :)

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:52 PM

View PostBoobieM4H, on 08 April 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

Try Murder Oil

( o Y o )
Heh, I knew it was only a matter of time before that one came up :P not that I doubt the quality of it, in fact I think I'll grab some of it when it's available to see just how it is.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:39 AM

View PostBoobieM4H, on 09 April 2013 - 07:41 PM, said:

Sure thing boss..I knew this was coming :)

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Thank you....




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