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#1 Roy Chan

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Posted 26 December 2013 - 07:02 PM

Hey guys i`ve been hearing bad things about the internals of kwa cqrs , haters etc. I need some people here to tell me how good the internals in the cqr are and are they good.

#2 Jesse Hammil

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Posted 26 December 2013 - 07:36 PM

I can't speak to the cqr specifically, but I find there is a lot of hate towards kwa online.

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Posted 26 December 2013 - 07:39 PM

View PostJesse Hammil, on 26 December 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

I can't speak to the cqr specifically, but I find there is a lot of hate towards kwa online.
you`re right thanks though , but u have any kwas that u would like to review here?

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Posted 26 December 2013 - 07:56 PM

I have been using Mac computers since 1995. I get the same thing, haters. What my son spends on anti virus SW he could have bought a Mac Pro.
Im not going to write a review for you, i have a MOD2 & its the same gearbox as in my KWA RIS

By far the best gearbox to work on. The cylinder in the MOD2 is ported very low. To keep the gun under 350FPS.
I had both guns shoot well over 430fps with .25

High quality gears, well made. Buy One! you won't regret it.

Edited by tales, 26 December 2013 - 09:05 PM.


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Posted 26 December 2013 - 08:15 PM

View Posttales, on 26 December 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

I have been using Mac computers since 1995. I get the same thing, haters. What my son spends on anti virus SW he could have bought a Mac Pro.
Im not going to write a review for you, i have a MOD2 & its the same gearbox as in my KWA RIS

By far the best gearbox to work on. The piston in the MOD2 is ported very low. To keep the gun under 350FPS.
I had both guns shoot well over 430fps with .25

High quality gears, well made. Buy One! you won't regret it.
i already have one its pretty good , but the haters
THANKS MAN the comparisons helped
Kwa=mac because macs are not compatible with some programs and software but are still awesome (i own a mac too , they dont get the mac version of the blue screen of death easily , are reliable and work well)
so tell me if im right because i have been studying on the kwa
its the best out of the box gun and its lipo ready handguard is build for lipo batteries too , its really good but people hate it because u cant use some parts from other companies

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Posted 26 December 2013 - 08:36 PM

The PC is mine, since my son is 13. Macs are user friendly JMO.

Here are some pics of there gearbox.

M4 RIS (rewired) Nice gears!
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Mod2
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MOD2 (with an inline lipo low voltage alarm)
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Battery 7.4V
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Edited by tales, 26 December 2013 - 08:46 PM.


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Posted 26 December 2013 - 09:01 PM

I've had my ris for about a year and its been awesome. Easily beats out my friends guns. In looks, feel and performance.

Edited by Jesse Hammil, 26 December 2013 - 09:02 PM.


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Posted 26 December 2013 - 09:09 PM

Sorry, i meant the cylinder is ported more to the bottom for CQB.

Edited by tales, 26 December 2013 - 09:51 PM.


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Posted 27 December 2013 - 07:14 AM

Tales is spot on regarding the CQR.  All KWA AEGs use the same gearbox and internals (The G36C used a V3 gearbox but otherwise the gearbox internals were the same).  The only thing that is different between the RIS and the MOD 1, apart from the externals, is the cylinder which has a larger port positioned forward to reduce FPS.  The spring is even the same as the RIS.

As far as KWA haters go, most simply do not have correct information.  That is not to say that KWAs are a perfect gun.  They can have their moments.  Case in point is the CQR series.  Some of the very first guns had feeding issues.  Most of these cases came down to one of 2 issues, either there was left over flash on the feed ramp from the molding process or the feed ramp was not properly seated.  Both of these were easy fixes and have been addressed.

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Posted 27 December 2013 - 09:48 PM

Thanks everyone for the replies , but those haters on kwa need to leave kwa alone, took my gun out for some runs before 6-8 times and its really accurate and the 2gx bucking makes it shoot 200ft

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Posted 27 December 2013 - 09:49 PM

View PostRoy Chan, on 27 December 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:

Thanks everyone for the replies , but those haters on kwa need to leave kwa alone, took my gun out for some runs before 6-8 times and its really accurate and the 2gx bucking makes it shoot 200ft
Agreed! :tsuki:

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 05:40 PM

Bought my CQR last year and have had nothing but great experiences with it. It is noticeably lighter than their full metal counterparts, but the "KWAlity" is still the same. I have a KM tight bore in it and improves the accuracy extensively. All in all, it's the best gun for the money on the market. If you plan on playing outdoors put in a type 1 cylinder and you'll notice a major improvement in FPS.

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:53 PM

Myself and a number of my teammates run nothing but KWA's. Haters just do not like some of the awesomeness that is built into the G2 GB. They always think they can build better mouse trap. I use exclusively KWA parts and have now for 4 years. Still the same GB with lord only knows how many rounds thru it. I have tried to push the gearbox to it's breaking point to see how far I could push it with ROF with an 11.1v 4500mah 70-120c lipo. Yes, I did end up smoking a motor. Imagine that.
I have been playing going on 6 yrs I think and have played with a number of other AEG's and I stay with the KWA for the brute strength in the gearbox. It has been used in 10 degree weather an never broken down.

As far as the CQR I have only installed a Type 1 cylinder in one to bring the fps up to 400fps. I shoots fantastic but the plastic body cracks easily.

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 08:20 PM

The "haters" (or more appropriately referred to as, critics), in mention, are usually the guys that enjoy swapping out everything in their guns for aftermarket parts and grow discontent when the parts that they drop $$$ for are not compatible in their new toy (which KWA is notorious for). In my opinion and from what I have seen, KWA guns are more for the players who want a game ready gun with solid performance and durability straight out of the box. They run smooth, get good stock rate of fire and compression, and they are relatively well shimmed. The gear boxes are also tanks. Another thing; A lot of people (including myself which i must admit) don't like the claim that KWA's are "lipo ready". It is all a big marketing gimmick and a somewhat comical term as well since technically all AEG's can run lipo batteries. When a gun comes stock with the angle of engagement corrected, well shimmed gears, and some way to control the flow of current of electricity at high output, THEN I will call it "lipo ready". And thats just the basics because when you start pushing high and higher RoF you have to start worrying about pre engagement and all that other jazz. There's a lot that goes into it and thats why I think people tend to "hate" on KWA. The majority of them are the ones who put in more time on the work bench then on the field...for which I must plead guilty to myself.
But all in all KWA's have great stock build durability and the out of the box performance is second to none. I absolutely LOVE my KM4 RIS. The only things I've done to it are corrected the AoE, installed a polycarb piston head, and wired a simple non-AB MOSFET (I don't like active breaking because it wrecks you motor brushes) and that thing has been running like a champ for almost a year. Could not be more pleased. I have also recently become the proud owner of an LM4 PTR which is also a quite enjoyable machine to operate.
As for the CQR's I was also skeptical until I worked on a friend's and compared it to my KM4's internals. It was pretty much the exact same song and dance and I was pleasantly surprised. I might have to pick up on for myself now.

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 05:09 AM

I can tell you from personal experience that the CQR is one of the BEST M4's AVAILABLE IN THE AIRSOFT MARKET! Its reliable, performs great, and overall is built to last. I just went to a game in the start of a blizzard and the gun worked perfectly. Even afterwards i made sure it was dry, shot it, and it still works incredibly. As for the haters, come on, we all know JG is not superior! So for everyone that says they are better than KWA, you might want to do some research. ;)

Edited by Rain Man, 06 January 2014 - 09:24 AM.






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