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#1 thumper88

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 01:40 PM

I see they chrono out at slightly different speeds -- which clearly indicates something different inside — and that the G36 isn't supposed to run a LiPo. But I have never seen anyone say exactly why, except that it simply isn't designed for LiPo.

That said, when you look at the replacement parts you offer here on this site for both guns, the gear sets, which I was guessing was the biggest difference, are identical, at least in the photo.

So, are the M4 gears wider and harder, or are they all the same? And what are the other key differences?
trying to make up my mind between the two. Not really interested in running LiPo in the G36, just trying to figure out whether the M4 actually has slightly more robust construction.

Both products obviously are at the top of the industry, just a matter of which one.
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Edited by thumper88, 04 July 2008 - 01:43 PM.


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Posted 04 July 2008 - 03:05 PM

View Postthumper88, on Jul 4 2008, 01:40 PM, said:

I see they chrono out at slightly different speeds -- which clearly indicates something different inside — and that the G36 isn't supposed to run a LiPo. But I have never seen anyone say exactly why, except that it simply isn't designed for LiPo.

That said, when you look at the replacement parts you offer here on this site for both guns, the gear sets, which I was guessing was the biggest difference, are identical, at least in the photo.

So, are the M4 gears wider and harder, or are they all the same? And what are the other key differences?
trying to make up my mind between the two. Not really interested in running LiPo in the G36, just trying to figure out whether the M4 actually has slightly more robust construction.

Both products obviously are at the top of the industry, just a matter of which one.
thanks much,
--jp

My best guess in the FPS difference is the cylinder on the G36c has larger ports to match its barrel, right? So more that probably causes the 20 FPS difference because they both use a M120 spring.

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 07:14 PM

2 different mechbox designs, one is version 2 and one is version 3.  LiPo usage was not a consideration when we designed the KG36C.

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 04:09 AM

Thanks,
and I do understand that the official response is that the mechbox designs are different. But what makes them different from each other?
I see the same replacement gears (same part number), I seem the same fine ball bearing bushings...and of course it makes you wonder.
I've seen several postings in practically every airsoft forum asking variations on the question of "can I use LiPo with  a KWA G36C?"
and, between many answers from the uninformed, the handful of responses from those in the know seems to be simply to say no, it wasn't designed for it. It would be nice to have the specifics.
respectfully,
Thumper

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 08:26 AM

It takes more than gears and piston to ensure a gun is lipo ready.  KWA will not go into specific as we didn't conduct a long term study on lipo use when G36c is released early in 2007 (unlike the M4 series).  If you want to use it.  Especially those 11.1v, you are on your own and will not be covered by first 45 days if there is breakage.




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