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#1 mockingshot

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:55 AM

The KWA M17 part # 68, i have no clue where it goes. i have looked at the chart and cant figure it out. Help quick would be great.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:27 AM



Skip to 7:48

You get a sense of where part 68 is supposed to be at 8:45 in the video.

THEN, the guy puts part 68 back into the gun in this video: at 11:15 into the vid.



Just for reference, you should check this guy's youtube channel out and watch his how-to repair M17/M18c vids... they are incredibly helpful! :)

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:44 AM

Well his hand is in the way 100% of the time so im still stuck...the gun is pretty worn and i think the magazine is leaking but i dont know how to tell forsure.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:52 AM

It's hard to create a tear down video with a camera on a tripod and not be comfortable, trying to retain your parts and still try to show the viewers what you are doing. From the two other spots in the first video, I hope you can assume where to put the piece. I encourage you to watch the other videos he has to see if it makes a difference.

If you are not comfortable putting the piece in yourself, you can always send the gun to KWA.

You can tell if the magazine is leaking if there is a hissing noise, or, empty the magazine of gas, and submerge it under water. If bubbles come to the top, then you know you've got a leak. If there are bubbles, tell us where they are coming from and I can tell you how you can fix it.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:00 AM

there is something rattling inside the mag. It doesnt leak bubble when i fill it up a little bit. but ive noticed that after a few shots of manual cokcing and such it leaks out.

the pistol is a KSC, will they still fix that?

Edited by mockingshot, 27 January 2013 - 08:03 AM.


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:30 AM

View Postmockingshot, on 27 January 2013 - 08:00 AM, said:

there is something rattling inside the mag. It doesnt leak bubble when i fill it up a little bit. but ive noticed that after a few shots of manual cokcing and such it leaks out.

the pistol is a KSC, will they still fix that?
The rattling inside the mag is a bass tube that can easily be repositioned in place if you open the mag.  Regarding KSC products, KWA will not do the repair.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:33 AM

View Postgcw360, on 27 January 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

The rattling inside the mag is a bass tube that can easily be repositioned in place if you open the mag.  Regarding KSC products, KWA will not do the repair.
well how do i take apart the magazine?

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:43 AM

View Postmockingshot, on 27 January 2013 - 08:33 AM, said:

well how do i take apart the magazine?
To disassemble the mag

See here for parts diagram: http://kwausa.com/fi...non_ns2_mag.jpg
  • Remove base plate

  • Remove the two pins (#224) tapping out from the left side that hold the base in place(make note of the orientation of the pins, they should be thicker on one side that the other) - Do not remove the third pin (#235) that holds part # 234

  • Remove base (#222)

  • Replace brass tube (#219)

  • Reassemble - you may need a buddy to apply pressure to #222 while you place the pins...this time tap in from the right side
Also, this is a good time to apply some silicone to the rubber gasket.  Use pure, not spray, silicone.

Hope this helps.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:17 AM

is the brass tube a big deal? can i leave it in there? i cant get the pins out.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:27 AM

View Postmockingshot, on 27 January 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

is the brass tube a big deal? can i leave it in there? i cant get the pins out.
It helps the mag fill properly. I've fixed the on or two mags that this has happened to me over the years so it's hard for me to say what change in performance might occur.  If you are not seeing any reduction in performance, I wouldn't worry about it.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:34 AM

it hasnt fully cycled yet so i have no clue what its performance is. im gonna end up taking it to someone and getting it fixed. i really want this gun to work again. im guessing the problem is a worn vaulve striker or a worn hammer.

Edited by mockingshot, 27 January 2013 - 09:35 AM.


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:37 AM

View Postmockingshot, on 27 January 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

it hasnt fully cycled yet so i have no clue what its performance is. im gonna end up taking it to someone and getting it fixed. i really want this gun to work again. im guessing the problem is a worn vaulve striker or a worn hammer.
Sounds reasonable.  Good luck with the fix.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:40 AM

Yup, after 7 hours of working on it i guess i just need to give up.




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