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#21 SuperFly

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 02:00 PM

I'll be the guinea pig on this one. I used the frog lube paste on the cylinder o-ring about 3 months ago, no heat. It's been going fine ever since, even after a day in the rain. I'll let you know if / when I have to reapply or if / when the o-ring gets destroyed from the frog lube.

Edited by SuperFly, 09 December 2012 - 02:01 PM.


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Posted 09 December 2012 - 02:05 PM

Thanks for all the help guys. I will be picking up a bottle of 30wt silicone oil from my local shop and ordering a small bottle of frog lube.

SuperFly- Definitely let us know how that goes. I'm really interested to see that.

Also, for the o-rings I don't think there would be any need to heat them since they are already porous. I was under the impression the reason you were supposed to heat the metal was to open up the pores and allow the frog lube to sink in.

Edited by BeachEMT, 09 December 2012 - 02:09 PM.


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Posted 09 December 2012 - 02:20 PM

I've been using frog lube on the o-ring and it didnt have any damage when I swapped it out to the harbor freight one. Had it on there as well for the HF o-ring and still no issues.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:48 PM

I've been using both 30wt oil and Froglube. According to Froglube's website, it is safe for airsoft guns as it is safe for o-rings.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:02 PM

With all this talk about silicone iam so dang confused.. I am very new to airsoft and this is the part that I am still in the dark about. people have told me to never ever use silicone on AEG's and some have said that you have to..So can you all please help set me in the right path..So if you use silicone on a AEG where do you use it? how do you use it? etc etc..  If you are not suppose to use it then why? and why do people use it??

Also What oil is good and safe to use on my KWA 1911 Mark III? the bottle that comes with it when I bought it has very little in and would like to get more..When I was Evike  they sold me the gunand they said to use this (link at bottom), but its spray silicone and I have read not to use spray silicone..so whats the deal.. I am so lost and dont want to destroy my guns.. Thank you all so much for help Below is a link to the silicone they sold me

http://www.evike.com...oducts_id=24183

Oh I am using the M4 SR7 DEVGRU and 1911 Mark III

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:06 PM

View Postndfan6464, on 04 January 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

Also What oil is good and safe to use on my KWA 1911 Mark III?
Any 100% silicon oil 20wt, 25wt, or even 30wt is good to use in a KWA gbb gun.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:56 PM

View Postndfan6464, on 04 January 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

With all this talk about silicone iam so dang confused.. I am very new to airsoft and this is the part that I am still in the dark about. people have told me to never ever use silicone on AEG's and some have said that you have to..So can you all please help set me in the right path..So if you use silicone on a AEG where do you use it? how do you use it? etc etc..  If you are not suppose to use it then why? and why do people use it??

Also What oil is good and safe to use on my KWA 1911 Mark III? the bottle that comes with it when I bought it has very little in and would like to get more..When I was Evike  they sold me the gunand they said to use this (link at bottom), but its spray silicone and I have read not to use spray silicone..so whats the deal.. I am so lost and dont want to destroy my guns.. Thank you all so much for help Below is a link to the silicone they sold me

http://www.evike.com...oducts_id=24183

Oh I am using the M4 SR7 DEVGRU and 1911 Mark III
I use pure silicone R/C shock oil on AEGs and GBBs as follows:

30wt pure silicone shock oil (20-25wt is fine too)
  • GBBs - Used on moving parts and seals including mag valves - See GBB maintenance videos under DIY threads
  • On AEGs - Used in the cylinder and on o-rings for compression (never in the barrel or on hop-up parts).  If you are not opening the gearbox, you are not using silicone on an AEG (Note: I use heavier geese like "Super Lube" on the AEG gears and other large moving parts in the gearbox


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:37 PM

Thanks for all the info..no I see the light on silicone.. I have had my AEG for about 3 weeks now and prob about 5,000 rounds through it. I clean it after every full day or night of play (only played 3 times so far). But I have not opened the gear box. I am not that good yet with knowing my way rounds these guns. Should you oil it every time after a full day of playing? cause like I said I havent put any oil into my gear box. Last thing I want to do it destroy my guns and I am super picky about how I maintenance my toy and real guns..

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 07:59 AM

View Postndfan6464, on 04 January 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:

Thanks for all the info..no I see the light on silicone.. I have had my AEG for about 3 weeks now and prob about 5,000 rounds through it. I clean it after every full day or night of play (only played 3 times so far). But I have not opened the gear box. I am not that good yet with knowing my way rounds these guns. Should you oil it every time after a full day of playing? cause like I said I havent put any oil into my gear box. Last thing I want to do it destroy my guns and I am super picky about how I maintenance my toy and real guns..
I regears when I do a spring swap or general maintainace.  I would do it enery 40-50K rounds.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:02 AM

So guys, when you mention frog lube which kind are you talking about? The tub of greasy type wax stuff or the bottle of liquid CLP?

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:33 AM

I picked up a can of Remington Dri-Lube which is Teflon based and it cycles extremely smooth. I'll let you guys know of any negative side effects of the product.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:41 PM

One is in liquid form and the other in a paste. Both do the same thing.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:54 PM

I'm going with the CLP since it applies like silicone oil.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:22 PM

The paste is better for moving parts like the bolt. Everywhere else I use 30wt silicone oil

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 05:09 PM

Gentlemen,
Thought id let you know what has been the most successful for me thus far. This christmas i got a bottle of froglube, in the liquid form. Best lube ever. The paste is waxy and won't melt in an airsoft gun, but this is liquid and provides excellent lube for all the parts of the gun, and won't swell a bucking. I am going to start using froglube in my propane as well instead of silicone shock oil. This stuff also repels dirt unlike silicone which literally draws in gunk. Sorry to bring up an old post, just thought you all would like a little insight after months of using it!
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Posted 07 February 2014 - 07:40 PM

Hello all, thought id share my expirence with frog lube and gas guns. I have used frog lube on my atp, atp auto, lm4, and mp9, all of which ran okish with it. Now i say "okish" only cause i did notice a drop in cycle rate when the weather cooled down and prolonged use with out cleaning and re-applying. Id love lie and say i clean my airsoft guns after every game or event, but i dont like to lie... the frog lube turned into a thick paste like substance that no longer smelt minty fresh like it does when first applied, i normally used this change in state as a indication of a "time to clean me" notice. With the lube changing into what it was and slowing my cycle rate, i seeked to find something better. What i have been using now for a better part of a half year (used frog lube for a year on my gas guns and friends) is G96 gun oil. Im gonna be honest ive done no research into how it reacts with o-rings but i havent had any issues thus far. Now you may say "but i like my gun smelling minty fresh!" Dont worry my friend the G96 gun oil smells like the gods gift to man kind know as "egg nog!!"

This is not me bashing frog lube, because i use it on all my real steel firearms and it works like a hot dam! This like i said is just a expirence ive had with the lube on my gas guns and i thought id share.

When i mentioned cycle rate times being slower, i did not measure actual bps but it was more so towards cycling the slide on my pistol or sending the bcg home in the lm4 and mp9, it was just slower, plus after changing to the g96 my mp9 no longer has feeding issues and the bcg not fully seating forward allowing it to fire and having a "dead trigger".

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 01:44 PM

I use frog lube on both my GBBs and I haven't noticed any change in cycle rate. The difference in applying frog lube to a GBB as opposed to a firearm is that you need to apply a very thin coat. I use a cotton barrel swab and do a dry rub to clean off dirt, a rub with a little lube to get it cleaner and then a final pass with lube once the swabs come out clean.





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