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#1 kelharis

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 05:07 PM

SO, I am going to be buying the RIS version of the M4 off of AirsoftGI, and I will also be upgrading the PEQ box to one that accepts a large-type battery (sub c).  There is an awesome battery store in my area that will make any battery combination you want and I am looking at a 9.6v PEQ configuration with 5000 ma/h cells, with deans connectors (they will do any rewiring for free, and will add a deans to the gun, while leaving the small tamiya).

Will this create more stress on the internals?

Also, I would only do this after the 45 days are up obviously.

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 06:30 PM

The deans will give you a higher rof over the tamiyas. The mah just effects how long the battery lasts.  It should be fine.

Edited by Stealthmaster14, 19 August 2008 - 06:31 PM.


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Posted 19 August 2008 - 08:31 PM

the only thing u shud make sure about is the c rating.

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:18 PM

That's for a lipo elite ;)

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:18 PM

View Postelite, on Aug 19 2008, 08:31 PM, said:

the only thing u shud make sure about is the c rating.


dont c rating only apply in Lipos? :unsure:

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:20 PM

lol we posted onthe same min! hehehe!.. anyway I woudnt suggest large batteries and peqs.. theyre just ugly IMO.

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 11:31 PM

View PostkarMeister, on Aug 19 2008, 10:20 PM, said:

lol we posted onthe same min! hehehe!.. anyway I woudnt suggest large batteries and peqs.. theyre just ugly IMO.
i agree w/ karMeister, IMO too peqs are just ugly....

since you're getting a KWA {the only "lipo ready" claim in the industry that is NO bull} why settle for 9.6V nimh/subc when the gun can easily take 11.1V lipo? you'll know what i'm talking about once you try it.  Stealthmaster14 is right,  5000 mah gives you about 5000 rnds. w/ lipo 5000 rnds can be accomplished w/ just 2000 mah,  plus 9.6V 5000 mah that's gonna be a huge batt.? on the other hand, should you stick w/ 9.6V, 1200-1400 mah should be fine {still gives u good ROF} must have 2 though for full day battle.....just my 2 cents...

Edited by vsenriquez, 19 August 2008 - 11:33 PM.


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Posted 20 August 2008 - 06:34 AM

View Postvsenriquez, on Aug 19 2008, 11:31 PM, said:

i agree w/ karMeister, IMO too peqs are just ugly....

since you're getting a KWA {the only "lipo ready" claim in the industry that is NO bull} why settle for 9.6V nimh/subc when the gun can easily take 11.1V lipo? you'll know what i'm talking about once you try it.  Stealthmaster14 is right,  5000 mah gives you about 5000 rnds. w/ lipo 5000 rnds can be accomplished w/ just 2000 mah,  plus 9.6V 5000 mah that's gonna be a huge batt.? on the other hand, should you stick w/ 9.6V, 1200-1400 mah should be fine {still gives u good ROF} must have 2 though for full day battle.....just my 2 cents...

5amps is just too much when you talk about capacity on a m120 setup. (higher tension setups drain you batt faster) . to have a good charging/discharging cycle that your battery requires. I used a Sanyo 9.6 2600mah bat ant it lasted for 3 weekends! I didnt want that cause I want to have a fully charged bat on the start of the day... not large capacity half drained batt.

:lol:

Edited by karMeister, 20 August 2008 - 06:36 AM.


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Posted 20 August 2008 - 06:59 AM

View PostkarMeister, on Aug 19 2008, 10:20 PM, said:

lol we posted onthe same min! hehehe!.. anyway I woudnt suggest large batteries and peqs.. theyre just ugly IMO.

I hate peq's aswell. Too bulky and serve no purpose other than holding a battery and the ICS has a laser, just extra wieght.

If you want a big battery, get a crane stock, but I starting to hate that idea. Im going with a 7.4v LiPo once I get some money.

Edited by vic_man4, 20 August 2008 - 07:04 AM.


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Posted 20 August 2008 - 08:57 AM

View PostStealthmaster14, on Aug 19 2008, 11:18 PM, said:

That's for a lipo elite ;)

o ya. haha

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 02:53 PM

The problem is, can a lipo (or any battery for that matter) fit into the stock of the RIS version, or will you need the peq box no matter what?  Also, from the research I have done, lipos WILL create more stress on the internals.  I am trying to get maximum battery life while not stressing the internals.

Edit: The version I am going for does have a laser as well, just as an fyi.

Edited by kelharis, 20 August 2008 - 02:54 PM.


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Posted 20 August 2008 - 05:04 PM

View Postkelharis, on Aug 20 2008, 02:53 PM, said:

The problem is, can a lipo (or any battery for that matter) fit into the stock of the RIS version, or will you need the peq box no matter what?  Also, from the research I have done, lipos WILL create more stress on the internals.  I am trying to get maximum battery life while not stressing the internals.

Edit: The version I am going for does have a laser as well, just as an fyi.

This lipo fits in tight spaces

Battery dimensions: 128mm x 10mm x 6mm (each pack, 3 packs for a battery)


http://cgi.ebay.com/...idZp1638Q2em122

Theres no such thing as "not stressing internals" but there are "reinforced parts" like what KWA has. Welcome to airsoft where everything breaks.

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 06:24 PM

View Postkelharis, on Aug 19 2008, 08:07 PM, said:

SO, I am going to be buying the RIS version of the M4 off of AirsoftGI, and I will also be upgrading the PEQ box to one that accepts a large-type battery (sub c).  There is an awesome battery store in my area that will make any battery combination you want and I am looking at a 9.6v PEQ configuration with 5000 ma/h cells, with deans connectors (they will do any rewiring for free, and will add a deans to the gun, while leaving the small tamiya).

Will this create more stress on the internals?

Also, I would only do this after the 45 days are up obviously.

I have a Crane Stock on my KM-4a1. It is made by Echo 1 and is able to store Sub C batteries. I highly reccommend a high - mah battery if you are looking for a long - lasting battery, and since yours is a 9.4v, your ROF will not be too low, slightly higher than the real ROF. However, you may want to use a small battery until the warrenty is over, because no battery should fit in the stock, you would need a crane stock.

My Echo 1 Crane Stock is able to store my Sub C sized 8.4v 4200 mah battery, and, in my opinion, it gives the m4a1 a nice look.

Also, if you prefer a metal stock, you could double the price of the Echo 1 and go for the CA, stores the same sized battery.

Edited by brooklyn468, 20 August 2008 - 06:26 PM.


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Posted 20 August 2008 - 06:55 PM

View Postkelharis, on Aug 20 2008, 02:53 PM, said:

The problem is, can a lipo (or any battery for that matter) fit into the stock of the RIS version, or will you need the peq box no matter what?  Also, from the research I have done, lipos WILL create more stress on the internals.  I am trying to get maximum battery life while not stressing the internals.

Edit: The version I am going for does have a laser as well, just as an fyi.

Go for a 7.4v LiPo, they last long apparently and are good in tight spaces.

When you say "fit into the stock of the RIS version" do you mean the rails or the stock :lol: go with a 7.4v LiPo, it wont put as much stress on your gearbox as a 11.1v but it will still have a decent ROF and will fit in your rails without a peq box. Look in the KWA proshop or AirsoftGI.

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 06:58 PM

The RIS version he is referring to is a custom ASGI gun.  It comes with a PEQ box and the original handguards in case you don't want the RIS.  http://www.airsoftgi...roducts_id=2887

What is the ROF with an 8.4 battery?  (not to steal your topic)  I know that a 9.6 2000mah double nunchuk fits in the PEQ box.

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 03:07 PM

View PostStealthmaster14, on Aug 20 2008, 07:58 PM, said:

The RIS version he is referring to is a custom ASGI gun.  It comes with a PEQ box and the original handguards in case you don't want the RIS.  http://www.airsoftgi...roducts_id=2887

What is the ROF with an 8.4 battery?  (not to steal your topic)  I know that a 9.6 2000mah double nunchuk fits in the PEQ box.
That's the one.  I haven't been able to find anyone who has confirmed any battery fitting inside the foregrip of the RIS model, aside from a few people who ended up bending their lipos when they tried.  I think I'll stick with the provided peq and battery until the 45 days end, whichever way I go aside from that will void the warranty anyway most likely.  

The jist of the answers from what I have seen:
Get a lipo (out of the question for me until I feel more comfortable with he safety of my family and the gun.)

Setting aside what you would do (i.e. looks of PEQ box, lipo ready so use it, etc.) as far as batteries go, would a 5000 ma/h battery be well outside the recommendations from KWA?

Edited by kelharis, 21 August 2008 - 03:08 PM.


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Posted 21 August 2008 - 03:44 PM

You do know if you get that gun, KWA want warranty it.  I contacted KWA and they said that any modifications done outside of KWA will cause the gun to lose it's warranty.   Sorry man

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 03:57 PM

View Postkelharis, on Aug 21 2008, 06:07 PM, said:

That's the one.  I haven't been able to find anyone who has confirmed any battery fitting inside the foregrip of the RIS model, aside from a few people who ended up bending their lipos when they tried.  I think I'll stick with the provided peq and battery until the 45 days end, whichever way I go aside from that will void the warranty anyway most likely.  

The jist of the answers from what I have seen:
Get a lipo (out of the question for me until I feel more comfortable with he safety of my family and the gun.)

Setting aside what you would do (i.e. looks of PEQ box, lipo ready so use it, etc.) as far as batteries go, would a 5000 ma/h battery be well outside the recommendations from KWA?

I would guess not, mine has used thousands of bbs through it, and as I said earlier, it has a 4200 mah.

By the way, mah has nothing to do with if the gun can take it. The only things that matter are discharge rate and voltage.

To answer you question simply, no, the KM-4 could take it.

Also, when the warrenty is over, I highly reccomend a crane stock. Rewiring is pretty easy, don't let people tell you it is not.

And you could always go for a lipo to fit in the crane stock in case you ever wanted to upgrade.  :lol:

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 07:23 PM

View PostStealthmaster14, on Aug 21 2008, 04:44 PM, said:

You do know if you get that gun, KWA want warranty it.  I contacted KWA and they said that any modifications done outside of KWA will cause the gun to lose it's warranty.   Sorry man
Any chance of confirmation of this from KWA?  I mean for this particular model, as AirsoftGI claims it is qualifies for the 45 day warranty?

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 07:55 PM

yes I emailed them the link and they said it is not covered under warranty.  Send them an email and see if you get the same answer.




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