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#1 Rhampage

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 05:13 PM

Help desk has been down for me, and I need some help. Just got my Kriss a few days ago and it worked fine for the first mag. I did nothing out of the ordinary with it, just put a charged mag in it and shot till empty. (Semi) I reloaded the magazine and put it in, but it shot one time and then there was no trigger action. (Full mag, Full gas) Pulling the charging handle will occasionally result in a bb falling out. One shot, then no more trigger action. I have not forcefully pulled the trigger at all, due to reading a post about Boobie bending a bar with the trigger. I took it apart, and there was nothing out of the ordinary at all. No dings, scratches, dents, or anything for that matter. But I'm only getting one shot. I messed with the hop-up, cleaned the barrel and same thing.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:24 PM

It seems I have resolved the problem with proper re-lubing, but now my brand new cans of gas are not filling the mag completely.  (Power Green with screw on nozzle) I've heard these only work with some guns, but I thought I'd try it anyway. I'm only getting 6 shots out of a 45 second charge (3-4 second bursts). Obviously some filling issues there. What brand Green Gas should I be using in this mag?

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:26 PM

Strange, we had this problem initially as well. While the store bought (new cans of) green gas didn't work, propane worked beautifully and emptied the entire magazine. Same issue with the KWA M93R, it may be the gas.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:34 PM

I'm guessing it is a pressure issue and/or the piece of crap metal nozzle they give.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:54 PM

View PostRhampage, on 17 February 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

I'm guessing it is a pressure issue and/or the piece of crap metal nozzle they give.
"Nozzle they give"?  This wouldn't be Power Green with the screw on nozzle would it?  If so, they won't fill most manufacturer's mags including KWA and TM.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 11:58 PM

View Postgcw360, on 17 February 2013 - 09:54 PM, said:

"Nozzle they give"?  This wouldn't be Power Green with the screw on nozzle would it?  If so, they won't fill most manufacturer's mags including KWA and TM.

Indeed it is.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:25 AM

View PostRhampage, on 17 February 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

Indeed it is.
That's your problem.  Go out a get a brand with a fixed nozzle.  King Arms, Elite, KWA.  They are all the same so get whatever is less expensive and at least you know the mags will fill.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:58 AM

Propane adaptors are also quite nice, saves you a decent amount of money over the year.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:27 PM

View PostPreacherMan, on 18 February 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

Propane adaptors are also quite nice, saves you a decent amount of money over the year.
You know, when I think about it, using propane has probably saved me enough to buy the KRISS in the first place. $12 vs $2 = about $10 savings. Since my first GBB four years ago I have gone through well over 40 cans of propane. Roughly $400 savings, maybe more if you consider the fact that GG comes in smaller containers.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:00 PM

Propane cylinders I have for my gas torch and camping stove have 16oz of propane while the green gas cylinders have 8oz, half the amount.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:45 PM

Half the volume, six times the price for Green Gas. Whatever good that it can do is not nearly close to out-weighing the amount of money wasted on it.

Edited by BENboBEN, 18 February 2013 - 03:46 PM.


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:28 PM

View PostBENboBEN, on 18 February 2013 - 03:45 PM, said:

Half the volume, six times the price for Green Gas. Whatever good that it can do is not nearly close to out-weighing the amount of money wasted on it.
No doubt propane is cheaper, but I got 12 cans of green gas for $85...

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:30 PM

View PostCpapp, on 18 February 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

No doubt propane is cheaper, but I got 12 cans of green gas for $85...
Buying in bulk is definitely the best practice if you are running GG.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:43 PM

Where does one optain KWA green gas or green gas for $85 for that matter?

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:11 PM

View PostBoss302, on 18 February 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

Where does one optain KWA green gas or green gas for $85 for that matter?
KWA GG is sold at various resellers.  $85 is a per case figure though YMMV.  It's best to search the web for further info.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:55 AM

$85 sounds about right for green gas if you can pick it up at the retailer.  The catch is the $27 UPS ground hazmat fee to ship it making if cost $112 shipped plus tax and the normal shipping fee. The hazmat fee is "per shipment" so double up on your case purchases to make it more affordable.

Pyramyd Air, my local airsoft retailer refused to price "pick up" less than shipped so I now buy my green gas out of state for the same case price 'cus I ain't paying a hazmat fee if they ain't shipping it.  They're just pocketing the extra $27.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 06:53 AM

Actually I got 12 cans for $87 shipped. How? I got it off hobbytron and they had a 13% off coupon, it's not the king arms gg that they pictured but its fire power. (I've only used fire power and it doesn't have a screw on nozzle)




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